02S conversion

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  1. dogzila Forum Member

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    I have 02a with 02J polo selector and shift box in mk3. What parts do I need for 02S conversion?
    02S selector?
    02S 6speed shift box? Can I keep polo 02J shift box housing (it bolts on ideally in mk3)?
     
  2. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    first thing you got to do is decide what set of ratios you want, then do some research to see if you can find a suitable box. If not then you'll need to grab a couple to have all the gears you need for your final build

    to get it in you will have a few problems to overcome, the 02S case is missing 2 of the holes for the gearbox bracket as well as one of the holes for the front bracket. You can make up a couple of conversion brackets to work around it but there is also no hole for the speedo sender, so your best bet is sent it off to hotgolf/martin emment/gas n gears to have the casings swapped to solve all of these issues in one go. If you fancy an LSD now would be the time ;)

    Once all of the above is done the 02A/J shifter swaps right in so you can keep your 6N polo gear selector :)
     
  3. Toyotec

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    While you must think through what you are about to embark on before attempting such a conversion, I have summarised at high level what is involved when the same is to be mechanically fitted to a Golf MK2.

    Please have a read.
     
  4. dogzila Forum Member

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    I checked photos 02j and 02s R&P is same length. So can I only put 5-6th gear from 02s?
     
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    Pinion shaft and input shaft on the 02s are longer than an 02a/j/r to incorporate 6th gear .
     
  7. dogzila Forum Member

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    Is 02S selector tower is better design than 02J? I don't know which to use.. I got 02S gearbox without cables, but polo selector tower is early type cable ends....02S is newer type
     
  8. rubjonny

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    once the 02a/j casings are swapped over to convert it you use the 02a/j type tower. assuming you mean the 6n polo 02j type shifter you can swap the cable ends from ball to pin fixing to match the L selector and weight on the tower you end up using
     
  9. Toyotec

    Toyotec CGTI Committee - Happy helper at large Admin

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    I have used both towers late 02J/02S back to back. I use a MK4 shift linkage from a TDI. There was no differrence in shift quality.
    However hotgolf or Mart of Gas n Gears recomended to use the 02S shift tower in my hybrid gearbox after a bit of beta testing.
    I use an 8N TT short throw on my conversion so that means later chucky common ends.

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    Note, the 02S tower does clock the throw lever clocwise a tad.


    My Gas n Gears hybrid box box has done a few thousand miles, so I can recommend that set up on the basis it does work.
     
  10. dogzila Forum Member

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    I can't close 02J casing because 02S shift fork jaws are longer than 02j...I am confused... Maybe grinding shift fork will help
     
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    To use 02S shift forks you need to use the 02s middle case.
     
  12. dogzila Forum Member

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    If I use 02S middle case, I can't bolt it to mk3 mounting...
     
  13. dogzila Forum Member

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    Speedometer was working, but when I have done 6 speed conversion it stopped working. Is possible 02S differencial gear doesn't match with speedo gear?
     
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    02s diff doesn’t have a speedo drive gear fitted.
    If you use the 02s tower you need to shorten the tab to fit in the forks.
     
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    I have a question folks ....Are the gears switchable from a 02S to 02A\02J....i need 3-th 4-th and 5-th ...
     
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    GXV 6 Mk5 Golf 3.938 N/A 3.780 2.270 1.650 1.270 1.030 0.860
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    4.235 N/A 3.778 2.118 1.650 1.270 1.030[8D][8D][8D]
     
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    yes
     

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