2.0L 16V FSI Head Design

Following all the information on 16v heads

just looking for information on the New 2.0L 16V FSI Head and their designs.

has anybody got any photo's and information on them and will they fit various VW blocks.

http://forums.fourtitude.com/showthread.php?4444993/page2

i've found photo's on the inlet ports but nothing on the exhaust ports.

http://www.eurospecsport.com/products/components/standard-rebuilt-heads.htm

 

Someone send me one, Ill chop it up to display all.

 

would be interesting to see the design and flow rates, Friend of mine did a head gasket on one and said the Head was a very good design (probabley Compared to 051 & 027)

so could this be the way forward to get 290bhp from a 2.0L
16V NASP Engine

 

Good thread idea.

Working off VW engine blocks, EA827 => EA 113 => EA888

AFAIK EA113 designation was ABF onwards and includes Mk5 Ed 30 engine. Tallblocks all?

So theoretically there is scope for those to fit.

Good thread to start digging here also:

http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=193256

 

From what I read on other forum
The FSI head is the way forward
Would love to see some pics to
Or brian to butcher it ........ For studying purpose off course

 

can you not just use the whole engine as it is rather than using a 20 year old block? has anyone remapped teh FSI properly yet?

 

Analyse is the correct word.

 

Off course

Just a remake of texas chainsaw massacre but academicely

Loved your previous work

would be tempted to do the same on an oettinger head to see it more in depth but only have one and a good one
so looking forward to see your next victim

 

i started a tread on vwvortex 2 years ago ``axw head flow numbers``

there are 2 heads for the 1st generation FSI engines , N.A and a Turbo
looking on the inlet ports they are the same ,the N.A more radius under the valve and the turbo head with a more straight port

the exhaust side on the N.A have 4x 3 bolt pattern , Turbo head 8 bolt pattern

a new manifold was made together with a german company for Single TB`s or DCOE type TBs or with a plate to make a plenum for turbo applications
For EFI and /or FSI injection

full race cams are available from catcams solid lifter and shims underneath

 

x2

 

The SBD 305BHP DURATEC has 36mm inlet valves and 31.5mm exhaust

my mate has a BRM Head on his 2.1L 16v with 34mm / 31.5mm but can only achieve 256bhp nasp due to the head design of the 027 . and we cannot get hold of any E85 Fuel which would have got us to that figure.

so it would be very interesting to see if the FSI Head is the future solution to 16v NASP power .

 

yes, its a very good head

info i recieved on the TFSI head from INA Engineering / Issam abed

flow @28``

Intake	stock	ported with +1mm valves
100	70	72
200	140	136
300	183	200
400	209	247
500	214	279

Exhaust	stock	ported with +1 mm valves
100	77	57
200	103	138
300	163	177
400	170	195

std inlet valves 33,85mm / exhaust 28 mm
Ferrea +1mm valves ( also springs, retainers,spring seats,shims )

Supertec STD size valves , springs retainers, etc...

Catcams Camshafts, springs, retainers, etc ( springs are a bit larger in diameter and need machining on the head )

engine block is 220mm high
FSI Alu
TFSI steel

 

Alloy block on the FSI hmmmmmmm nice

 

N.A - FSI head

std AXW head tested on Superflow 1020 (bore 84 mm ) @10`` H20

Inlet

2 mm	36.0 cfm
3 mm	54.1
4 mm	71.1
5 mm	86
6mm	100.2
7mm	113.3
8 mm	125.2
9mm	134.1
10mm	138.4
11mm	140.7
12mm	143.3
13mm	144.7
14 mm	145.6
15 mm	146.5
no valve	143.6

Exhaust

2mm	33.6 cfm
3mm	51.3
4mm	66.7
5mm	78.2
6mm	85.5
7mm	89.6
8mm	91.9
9mm	93.5
10mm	94.7
11mm	95.6
12mm	96.5
13mm	97.2
14mm	97.6
15mm	98.1
no valve	104.2

( numbers @10``multiplied x 1.67 )
flow @ 28``H20 should be:

	inlet	exhaust
2mm	60.12	56.11
3mm	90.34	85.67
4mm	118.73	111.39
5mm	143.62	130.59
6mm	167.33	142.78
7mm	189.21	149.63
8mm	209.08	153.47
9mm	223.94	156.14
10mm	231.13	158.15
11mm	234.97	159.65
12mm	239.31	161.15
13mm	241.65	162.32
no valve	239.8	174

test is done at 10``H20 with only the cilinderhead and no manifold, with some plastecine to make some radius on the inletport entry and no tube on the exhaustport.
2 valves are opened in 1mm steps
leak is 0.7 inlet and 0.8 exhaust
inletvalve 34mm troat 30mm seat 1.3 mm
exhaustvalve 28 mm troat 23.5mm seat 1.8 mm

 

Some good results there. Do you have any measurements of the entry section of the inlet tracts? Just width and height would do. I'm just trying to figure what the port velocities would be like compared to 027 / 051 heads

 

Inlet 50 x 29 mm ( 41 mm diameter )
Exhaust 33 mm diameter

not symetrical valveangle 45 degree ( aprox 24 inl/ 21 exh ? )
inletport angle 30 degree
injector angle 22.5 degree

engine codes N.A FSI
150 hp @ 6000RPM / 200 nm @ 3500 rpm ( 188 @ 2000 )
AXW, BLR, BLX, BLY, BVX, BVY, BVZ.

 

Pictures are:

1 TFSI head
2 Ported TFSI head by INA engineering
3 ported TFSI head by INA engineering
4 my own N.A FSI head in progress
5 Aftermarket Manifold for 4x1 TB or twin double TB
6 Catcams

 

very nice

 

Very nice Head ! think i've just wet myself


and the results look very impressive.

 

Hi would be gratefull if you could share info on after market inlet manifold