89 16v RE 2000 gti engineering

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  1. Sirguydo

    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    So just bought the above car of a club member :thumbup:

    Would like some pictures of original spec for it so I can sort it to original :thumbup::thumbup:

    As always thanks in advance :clap:


    Sorry no pictures of car yet still in trailer waiting for me to cut up a c reg 16 v to make space for it;)
     
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  2. Sirguydo

    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    So anyone know about gti engineering :thumbup:
     
  3. jamesa Forum Junkie

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    I`m sure that there is an article - spec sheet on this forum somewhere ... ?
     
  4. Sirguydo

    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    Been looking but can't find much [8(]
    Maybe I need to learn how to refine my searches a bit lol
     
  5. fasteddie

    fasteddie Banned

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    Feel the love
    Health to restore :thumbup:

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    The conversion comprises of:

    Tuftrided EN 24 crankshaft of 94.5 mm stroke

    Specially machined cylinder block with 82mm bore

    Lead indium heavy duty crankshaft bearings

    Alloys pistons with valve clearance cut-outs

    Gasflowed cylinder head

    Gasflowed inlet and exhaust manifold

    Reprofiled inlet and exhaust valve seats

    Selected valve springs

    Modified camshaft timing

    Modified distributor

    Modified injection system

    Price 2795 (1988)

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    I'm just to good to you

    Click on link below ;)

    http://www.gti-engineering.co.uk/featured.html
     
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    History

    GTi Engineering was founded in 1978 by Richard Lloyd. Richard was at that time racing a Golf GTI as well as running Volkswagen GB Ltd's highly successful racing programme which resulted in a hat-trick of British Saloon Car Championship class wins of 1977, 1978 and 1979. These much publicised competition victories contributed very significantly to the successful launch of the Golf GTI in Britain.
    Racebred Conversions

    From it's inception, GTi Engineering's primary role was the research, development, production and fitting of road-going sports conversions for Volkswagen and Audi cars. These conversions were of course complemented by an impressive range of racebred performance parts and accessories including suspension, braking, transmission, steering, interior and styling conversions, all of which had evolved over the years and, like the engine conversions, continued to be extended and updated. During the late 80's a team of twenty proficient staff handled the day-to-day business at the company's headquarters at the Silverstone racing circuit.

    Richard Lloyd Racing Ltd

    Having established GTi Engineering as a commercial success. Richard then launched a separate company to handle his motor racing activities. Richard Lloyd racing was the most successful private Porsche team regularly competing in the World Sports Prototype Championship.

    The VAG connection

    Following its UK launch at the end of the seventies, the Golf GTI was quickly singled out as the cult car - a status it still enjoys today. As a result it has attracted a great deal of special attention from the public and media alike. Keen to foster this special image VAG recognised that, as a 'high profile' company specialising in the marque, with an enviable record in track events and led by an extremely able engineering team, GTi Engineering could do much to maintain and promote interest in this unique car. So in 1982, GTi Engineering were appointed Official Audi Volkswagen Conversion Specialists. Being only twelve miles from the Milton Keynes VAG headquarters they were able to benefit from a mutual exchange of technical information which enabled them to develop modifications very soon after a new model release or sometimes before it's official UK launch.


    More links :thumbup:
    Click on

    http://www.gti-engineering.co.uk/GTeye2.htm

    http://www.gti-engineering.co.uk/GTeye3.htm

    http://www.gti-engineering.co.uk/GTeye4.htm

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  7. 1990

    1990 Paid Member Paid Member

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    Nice posts!!!^^^^^^

    There is also 'Bones' who knows loads about GTI Engineering
     
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    fasteddie Banned

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    User MK209 or Matt is well up on these cars and a real good guy ( That some Scumbag wrote a letter on... but sure [%]) ..speak to him mate :thumbup:
     
  10. Sirguydo

    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    Love you Eddie :thumbup:

    Slow pushbikeeddie maybe lol

    Thanks very much:thumbup:

    But in the words of Nige's wife stop messing on the computer and do some work on your awesome mk2lol;)
     
  11. SimonG Forum Member

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    I'd like to know what the modifications to the distributor are.
     
  12. fasteddie

    fasteddie Banned

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    On an 8v with vacuum adjustment the weights modified or springs changed to alter advance
    On a 16v none as there's only a hall sender/ trigger nothing to modifiy
    Just my thoughts
     
  13. GVK

    GVK Paid Member Paid Member

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    Does seem strange to list a modified distributor on the 16v spec list, as above..nothing to 'modify' on it!!
     
  14. RobT

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    Good thread. Relevant crank info here.

    http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?231254-4-cylinder-crank-differences-amp-interchangeability

    Looks like there was 94 and 94.5mm crank versions on a 2L engine from gti engineering. 8ftlb different.

    Chris Eyre has one of the 94.5mm Oettinger cranks in a Van Kronenburg (KMS) valver engine, about the max that will go in a non-bubble block engine as this leaves the block walls around the crank throws very thin.

    Hope the Holbay crank is still in yours and in good nick, easily worth the price of the car if it is.....(1500-2500 or a billet crank these days). Wonder which it is????

    Dizzy info seems wrong, as Gary said there is nothing inside a valver dizzy.
     
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    bones Paid Member Paid Member

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    I'm sure 8v nodded distributor has a tooth on the drive removed
     
  17. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    only thign ion the 16v is the hall sender trigger wheel windows, my thoughts are you can move them slightly? its the only reason i can think of why the polo gt dizzy is different to the SPI one. also peeps on here have had performance issues after fitting cheap pattern 16v dizzy that went as soon as a genuine bosch one was fitted. again cant think of any other reason but the hall sensor windows wernt quite right...

    A mate of mine has an RE2000 16v and had all a load of original sales gubbins to go with it, will hit him up see fi he can dig it out...
     
  18. fasteddie

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    Only time distributor gears are changed is to match the layshaft or when stroking/fitting a 9a crank to a 1.8 block the layshaft gear needed cut back clearance issues.
    anyway even if you could change the gear ratio the firing points would not line up :thumbd:

    Moving windows its a fixed wheel you can't and there would be no point as it would be the same as moving the distributor itself when setting timing.


    Later golfs/volkswagen cars had a single trigger window which was TDC and cylinders triggers came from crank sensor for ecu
     
  19. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    its not just moving, its changing the size of them. something about dwell angles :lol:

    as i say the polo gt and spi lump is basically identical except for injection system, and if you use an spi dizzy on a gt engien you loose power. both same style non-advance dizzy, so the only thing it can be is down to location/size of the trigger wheel

    also the cheap dizzy on 16v = reduced power, swap genuine bosch = fixed. sparkign just fine and timign set correct on both so what else is there?
     
  20. Sirguydo

    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    Just gone through file I got with the car got original bills for work carried out :thumbup:will post later
    Also got the gti engineering brochure :thumbup: I'll try and photo and post next week when I have a bit more time:thumbup:
    Thanks guys for help so far much appreciated :thumbup:
     

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