So it wont start without the relay above the fusebox? interesting. The other end shouldn't be plugged in anywhere, I guess it might be plugged into the over-run cut-off valve on the 16v, if so unplug that and you should be good to go.
Yeah if I unplug relay 2 the car will crank but not start Where do I find the over run cut off valve to unplug that?
Ohh so unplug that one? And if it runs fine them im alright? I thought you meant unplug relay 2 for the fuel pump, was a bit confused by that
yeah I was on 2 different tracks earlier. the relay in slot 2 is for an 8v kjet, 16v would use a 67/80/167 relay though it will only work if you have the full 16v loom to go with. The 8v relay is fine so long as its a non-limiter type, the relay above he fusebox circled is wired into the tacho circuit so I want to make sure its not affecting anything. If it still clicks out then try a non-limiter type: 2 = 443906059A/321906059D/E = no limiter (superceeded by 321906059F) 3 = 443906059 = no limiter (superceeded by 321906059E/F) 63 = 321906059F Kraker part number for non-limiter is 24.1400.20 & 3.300.210, and GSF part number is 935VG0090
https://imgur.com/gallery/MjoT5eq That’s the relay that’s currently plugged in slot 2. I’m assuming it’s not the non limiter type even though the last two digits are different
thats a limiter type, though it should be set to around 6.5k not where yours is cutting in. short term to test if the fuel relay is the issue you can swap the 17 relay to lot 2 and it will bring the pump on with ignition. it means the pump wont cut out if you crash so its not safe in the long run but fine for testing
So just put the relay underneath the fuel relay (the grey one stamped 17) into slot 2? Sorry for being like this I just want to make sure I’m doing it right Thanks
yep, you'll loose the wipers and blower motor plus a few other bits but car should start and run fine
I saw a diagram showing that the relay marked 17 is actually for load reduction not for wipers and blower motor? Is that right
yes its the load reduction relay, amongst other things it kills the wipers and blower motor while cranking. to, well, reduce the load
I’ll try that when I’m next at the car. Currently at work but I’ve spotted this: https://www.gsfcarparts.com/935vg0090 I’m assuming that’s the part I need if it’s the relay causing my problem?
yep that should be a non-limiter type relay. alternatively you could run a wire from the ecu to fusebox then you can use the 16v fuel relay, up to you
Success! I put the grey relay into slot 2 and lo and behold... the car stopped cutting out! I did a test with both relays and the problem starting again the with fuel pump relay. I’ve got the part coming tomorrow so hopefully it’ll be a permanent fix. Massive thanks to rubjonny for all your help!
lovely jubbly! if the rev counter worked perfectly on your test then the old 8v relay has gone bad for sure
hmm strange, the engine ran faultlessly at this rpm while the gauge bounced about? did you take out the circled relay above the fusebox?
Yeah, well I didn’t notice anything wrong with the engine. It revved up nicely I tried to pull that relay out, is there a certain way of removing it as I tried pulling it but it wouldn’t budge. It felt like it went quite far back into the fuse box and it was a bit wobbly