THE Mk2 Golf Definitive Wide Tracking Thread

Discussion in 'Chassis' started by A.N. Other, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. joeshaw123 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2010
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sheffield
    After some deliberation I've decided I'm sticking with narrow track due to a set of wheels I may be obtaining... Easier to run 10mm spacers than to make my arches wider to accommodate the wheels on wide track.

    My question now is that I need a set of hubs that don't have built in carriers. Will any off a 4x100 mk3 do, ABS or not, as long as its the non-integrated carrier type hub? Regardless of 256 solid/vented brakes? Cheers.
     
  2. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Likes Received:
    1,980
    Location:
    Bracknell
    yes, plus plenty of other VW and SEAT too.

    basically anything with 256/280mm brakes will do you except polo hatchback, lupo or arosa. so look at caddy van, polo estate and saloon, higher spec non-gti mk3/cab/vento, mk2 16v/g60, corrado, passat b3/4, seat ibiza, toledo and cordoba, etc etc
     
  3. joeshaw123 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2010
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sheffield
    Brill, that's what I've been looking for.

    A generous chap offered me a pair of corrado 16v hubs for a small fortune and they looked like they were salvaged from the Titanic, so I think I'll give those a miss.

    I've just seen a pair of non-ABS, 4x100 mk3 hubs with no built in carriers, so I have purchased them.

    Again, thanks for the help and rapid response time!
     
  4. ade007 New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2016
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Cracow
    hello, i fitted arms from mk3 gt tdi to my mk2 1,3 prelift version with 4speed gearbox, i putted in tdi shafts and it was necessary to changed joints from the gearbox side from 100mm to 90mm, but on the test drive, driver side joint jumped out from the hub...

    It is any difference between 4speed and 5speed gearbox in the wide of diff?? or maybe tdi shafts are shorter than nontdi shafts (only driver side shaft is shorter???)

    the passanger side shaft look like is fitted very good (it's about 2cm longer than original mk2 shaft)
     
  5. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Likes Received:
    1,980
    Location:
    Bracknell
    for the 1.3 you will need mk3 1.4 shafts, the 084/5 gearbox uses different length shafts to the 020/02a unfortunately
     
  6. ade007 New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2016
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Cracow
    thx, maybe someone knows what is a difference in lenght of shafts between 084 and 020?
     
  7. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Likes Received:
    1,980
    Location:
    Bracknell
  8. tomanni New Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2014
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Baildon
    Just a small input from me having nearly completed my 4 stud wide track.

    Using:

    Mk3 tdi wishbones
    Mk3 tdi driveshafts
    Mk3 pas tierods
    Mk4 R32/TT rear wishbone bushes
    Superpro front wishbone bushes
    Mk3.5 cabriolet 21.5mm arb

    My input is:
    Inner arb bushes for this is 1H0 411 314, NOT 191 411 314 as they are too small (17mm compared with 19mm I believe but both listed as 4 stud apparently). Learn from my mistakes ;)
     
  9. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Likes Received:
    1,980
    Location:
    Bracknell
    yes with the inner bushes (and outers too!) you have to take care as they differ depending what roll bar is fitted. the std mk2 19mm and g60 23mm roll bars both use the 191411314 part, some mk3 and later bars need 1H0411314.

    ETKA does list the mk3 bushes for the MK2 Golf, but only because VW dropped the oem MK2 19mm bar and offered the mk3 21.5mm roll bar in its place. this one needs the mk3 1h0 inner bushes to mount it
     
  10. sh123 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2017
    Likes Received:
    0
    if im using 5 stud mk3 hubs and discs can I still use g60 calipers and carriers? (that I allready have)

    also slight sidetrack, is it possible to somhow use vr6 shafts on a 4 stud setup?
     
  11. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Likes Received:
    1,980
    Location:
    Bracknell
    yes the pre-96 mk3 gti/16v/vr6 use the same calipers and carriers as the G60 so they will fit right on with mk3 280mm 5 stud discs :)

    5 stud shafts will fit 4 stud carriers if you swap the outer cv joint for a mk2/3 100mm 4 stud one, just check the lengths. the mk3 5 stud shafts might not be quite the same length as mk3 4 stud and obviously they will be too long for mk2 wishbones
     
  12. sh123 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2017
    Likes Received:
    0
    Cheers for replying!

    Was thinking of keeping 4 stud but with vr6 otluter for the slightly bigger spline. If cant be done then ill just 5 stud it.

    Cheers
     
  13. notenoughtime

    notenoughtime Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2014
    Likes Received:
    510
    Location:
    Essex
    What you building?
     
  14. sh123 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2017
    Likes Received:
    0
    Mk2 golf with ex sbg group a abf 220bhp for rallying so will be on an off gravel so could do with beefy shafts ( trying to get as good as i can with std parts for now)

    Cheers
     
  15. notenoughtime

    notenoughtime Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2014
    Likes Received:
    510
    Location:
    Essex
    Get a build thread going it sounds very interesting
     
  16. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Likes Received:
    1,980
    Location:
    Bracknell
    yeah unfortunately the splines are different on the hub 4 and 5 stud, you could always weld up and re-drill 5 stud hubs to 4 stud but there are other ways to get beefy cv joints:
    http://clubgti.com/showthread.php?277983
     
  17. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Admin

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Likes Received:
    1,980
    Location:
    Bracknell
    if you've got mk3 4 stud widetrack now plus some 5 stud shafts sat about if you coudl compare the lengths that woudl be awesome, our driveshaft thread still hasnt got 4 stud widetrack shaft lengths in yet :thumbup:
    http://clubgti.com/showthread.php?155374
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice