What mods? - 8v AGG engine

Discussion in '8-valve' started by Robbo, Oct 12, 2004.

  1. Robbo New Member

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    Hi all, just wanting some advice on the best engine mods for
    my Mk 3 8v. I'm thinking gasflowed head & schrick cam, or is it
    worth paying extra for a big valve head? Presumably I'd need a
    remap with a head/cam combo?

    What mods have you 8v guys done & what sort of performance
    increases are possible?

    Cheers,
    Robbo
     
  2. 1990

    1990 Paid Member Paid Member

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    For what it would cost to get the power out of the 8v you could easily swap the lump for a 16v.

    A 16v colour concept would be nice!!
     
  3. Robbo New Member

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    Nah mate... been down the 16v route before, I much prefer the
    'driveability' of the 8v. That's why I bought one ;) .

    I'm not looking for ridiculous power (I'm selling a VR6 Corrado),
    just a bit of a pep for the 8v. I do most of the work myself, so I'm
    only really looking at the cost of parts. I reckon I could do the
    big valve head & cam for under a grand :)

    Cheers,
    Robbo
     
  4. 1990

    1990 Paid Member Paid Member

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    What about a mk2 digifant head? I believe they have bigger valves than the mk3 8v head and are a direct fit.
     
  5. Robbo New Member

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    Not heard of that one before. It would certainly be a cheap 'big
    valve' head if it's a straight swap.

    Anybody else tried this?
     
  6. prof Forum Addict

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    crossflow head from a mk4-150-200 ish, loads better
     
  7. Robbo New Member

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    Cheers Prof, could you elaborate a bit. Which head exactly, Mk
    4 2L GTI? & would this be a straight swap?

    Robbo
     
  8. AlexB Forum Member

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    I think the new 8v beetles have the crossflow head too
     
  9. chrismc Forum Junkie

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    Crossflow head is a nice idea, but can you still use the mk3 injection??

    If not you are looking at Carbs or TBs which are both Big Bucks!!!

    Having been down the road of a flowed head using standard valves on a 2L id recommend going Big Valve. (Stage 2) Somewhere such as AmD Technik should be able to map it once all the physical mods are complete..

    A Big Valve 8v head & mild cam (as you use Lambda control) such as a Schrick 268 with all the usual exhaust/filter/port matching/ 4 branch etc etc should gain you 20BHP..

    Ive always been under the impression that mk2/mk3 8v digifant heads have the same valve sizes (40/33), but the mk2 item flows better, or is a better head to use..

    The mk2 head is a straight swap for the mk3 AFAIK too..


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  10. Robbo New Member

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    Thanks Chris, always useful to get info from someone who's
    done the mods before. I'm deffo not thinking TBs at this stage,
    as you say... mega-bucks!

    I'm looking at spending around a grand, so probably best to go
    for a big valve head, cam & remap. I've already got the exhaust
    & filter. I'll certainly be looking at a mild cam, having
    experienced wilder cams in one of my previous Mk2s [:s] . The
    Schrick 268 sounds ideal having looked into them already for
    my VR.

    What have you done to yours to get 155 horses?!

    Cheers,
    Robbo
     
  11. prof Forum Addict

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    as far as i know you can still use the normal 8v injection on the crossflow, check with designadubsto be sure
     
  12. chrismc Forum Junkie

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    I have already toyed with the x-flow idea, but was given the impression that it would require some kind of aftermarket management/fuelling...

    Robbo..my engine spec is as follows...

    Rebuilt & balanced mk3 AGG 2L bottom end
    Stage 2 (40/35) digi mk2 head
    Schrick 276 cam
    Lightened flywheel
    Re-profiled Throttle body
    Flowed/matched inlet manifold
    Supersprint 4-2-1 manifold & full system
    Invo stainless mesh cone filter
    AmD remap
    Porsche 3.5bar Fuel pressure Regulator...

    More or less as far as I can sensibly go for road use.. ;)
     
  13. Robbo New Member

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    That's a nice spec Chris, especially in a Mk2, some serious
    money spent there! Pretty wild cam though. Are you running
    Digifant injection with the head?

    As you say best to stay within the realms of sensibility for road
    use :)

    Cheers,
    Robbo
     
  14. 1990

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    I wonder if the mk3 engine would take the mk2 inlet manifold & TB?? The mk3 one looks painfully small in comparison.
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  15. Robbo New Member

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    Everything looks painfully small compared to my VR ;) ...
    seems to go well enough though... now I remember why I kept
    my old Mk2 8v for so long :)

    Cheers,
    Robbo
     

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