Wishbone Angle

Just wondering what sort of angle the wishbones should be for a decent setup, too low they point down too much,too high looks silly

 

The wishbones should really be higher at the inner bush end than the hub ball joint, to retain some "as designed" suspension geometry.
What car is it? What will it be used for?
If the wishbones are higher at the hub ball joint end than at the inner bush, it may be scene but will drive like utter sheite. Something the scenesters care little about.
Depending on your answer I may not post here again.

 

Level

 

thats what i thought due to companys selling the ball joint spacer thing

 

Level is not really where you want them to be, as any more compression of strut means geometry is going out.
If you are fitting ball joint extenders that changes a few things though.

 

For the road, it's adequate, which is the context here.

For the track, it depends on suspension travel.

 

With ball joint extenders or not?
Without ball joint extenders, level does not allow for any further compression without the geometry going out. The car will handle better if they are angled down from the inner bush. If it is a road car then some suspension travel will be required, and if you start at level it is going out all the time.

 

Without.

Theoretically yes, but in practice, no biggie on the road - there's enough travel left, at least in Engerland, Engerland!

 

Oh...I guess that means I`m doing it wrong...

 

Keep in mind that with such an angle, the transmission goes more than 1 cm inside the gbox and will touch the diff, with very bad consequences...

 

That`ll be what that funny noise from the gearbox is then...

 

Unless you can convince the "sump scraping along the road scenesters" that "shaft plunge" is not fashionable, there is little point in mentioning this.

The op has got quite a spec of engine (all be it needing set up to maximise output at the moment). You would think that he would wish for the car to handle at it's best to be able to make use of the extra power.

 

My Mk1 hillclimb / sprint set up after corner weighting... not yet taken to the road but drives OK (slow) on the track around the house. Runs 5` positive castor with ~ 1 - 1.5` -ve camber.

 

You did not get 5deg of positive camber without modding something else though? (eccentric top mounts?)
I cannot see the bottom ball joint ,but as the track rod end is still fitted from above, and the steering arms are parallel to the wishbone, this means there is no ball joint extender.
You will get a little bump steer with this setup, but as there is so little suspension travel left before the drive shaft hits the chassis leg it may not become a problem for you. On a road going car which will require a bit more travel it is not the best setup.

Ball joint extenders on your Xmas list.

 

Aye ...



Correct .. no bj extenders

Ledas were built to suit with 350lb springs

You have the address then ?

Thanks for the info

 

Top detective work there eh?

I made my own front shocks, as anything "off the shelf" was not suitable without running them just about fully compressed.

I do not use balljoint extenders on my setup.

Have a search in the group buy section as there was a thread on the go a while back. May have been from the states.

 

I got some ball joint extenders but they are for the mk1, I'll try and get a pic later how the car sits on 195/45/15s theres about 3 finger clearance between wheel and arch.

Coilovers are H&R monotubes

 

So is this a mk2 you are discussing here then Altern8?
Sell the mk1 ones to Jamesa.

 

mk2 this time, but this is the test bed for the mk1

 

hi guys how about these ones on flee bay half the price of the group buy and in the uk.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-LOWER...CarParts_SM&hash=item20b11687d0#ht_500wt_1154