150bhp or 225bhp

Discussion in '1.8 & 1.8T' started by Guests, May 27, 2004.

  1. Guests Banned

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    well it seems i might not be able to do this now

    coz i had a prang earlier in the year they dont want to touch a 22 yr old with no no claims

    [:^(]

    feck it. 139 it is then [:x]
     
  2. harry_the_cake Forum Junkie

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    I'll see your 225 and raise you an IHI and an N75 valve.

    :lol:
     
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    as much as i like your new sig.....i miss bunchie
     
  4. harry_the_cake Forum Junkie

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    Okay, just for you. He's back. [:D]
     
  5. Russ_JDUB Forum Member

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    People doing my conversion want 3K.

    This includes:

    Installation of engine and gearbox
    New oil and filter, new coolant, new spark plugs
    K&N filter
    Charge piping consiting of silicone hoses and metal pipes
    Supply in exchange, a new modified downpipe with heat wrap
    Map sensor
    Radiator fans
    DTA ECU
    Wiring loom
    Transport of vehicle to and from Stealth Racing for mapping
    Rolling road mapping
    Lubricant service after 5K

    If you break that down a bit, it's a feckin good price!! DTA alone costs 600 and mapping is 400!

    You have to source a few parts yourself, but I think it adds to the fun of it all. I've almost sourced all the bits now. :)

    If you want a detailed spec of what you need and costs, I'd be happy to let you know and help out. PM me.

    I would go 225 route. Do it once, do it right.

    When mapped you'd be looking at roughly 280bhp.

    I picked up my engine from eBay of all places, and all the parts are relatively easy to source.
     
  6. Deako Paid Member Paid Member

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    But the TT225 or S3210 or 225 engines (or even Leon CupraR 225 - nice as the box is 2wd) have forged lower compression pistons and K04 Turbos. There are also other minor differences but i cant remember what they are :)
     
  7. Deako Paid Member Paid Member

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    Mark, didnt you see the JBS Designs R32 engined Mk2 at inters?
     
  8. edc1 Forum Member

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    Only 1 turbo, twin side intercoolers.
     
  9. MarkGolf Forum Member

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    Hello, yeah saw that white mk2, but thats the 3.2, so didn't include that...

    The engine I have is brand new, still in packaging and never ever seen oil... unfortunetly, it does need money poured into it to build it up, which I certainly can't afford.... VW will buy it back if I don't sell it, so im pretty comfortable about seling it...

    Keep meaning to call Grant motorsport as i heard they want it...

    [:D]
     
  10. Deako Paid Member Paid Member

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    But it does have 24v no?? ;)

    Grant does the engines for VW cup, so im sure he would love brand spanking new spare blocks to build up to race spec.
     
  11. Rahul Forum Junkie

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    Designa Dubs do the 225 conversion drive in drive out for 4k +VAT?
     
  12. Seizure Forum Member

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    For what it's worth: 225/210 lump.

    The internals are stronger and will run at standard brake all day long. Upping the perfomance of the 150/180 lumps will only increase stress on the engines and turbos and reduce life expectancy. And if all you want is a reasonably quick, reliable dub go for the K04'd lump. Plus, if you decide to play with it later you will reap better rewards without an internals upgrade over the lower output lump.

    Oh, and the large ports (in the head) appeared in the early 150 lumps fitted to the A3's IIRC. They give better top end performance at the expense of torque. Probably not what you're after.
     
  13. Phil

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    Shifting to Engines. :)
     
  14. Guests Banned

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    thanks for your help guys

    and cheers Seizure. i think your right the 225 would have less strain.

    only problem is i rode my r1 yesterday.......i dont want to sell it :lol:

    oh well it was an informative post.....hehe ;)
     
  15. edc1 Forum Member

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    IIRC the Jabba IHI conversions on 150 engines do not change any internals. IIRC there's a few Ibiza owners runing like this no probs.
     
  16. prof Forum Addict

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    Badger bills 380bhp engine was a 150 spec originally
     
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    im getting a price tonight off Dubvelopments for a 20v T conversion [:D]
     
  18. altern8 Forum Junkie

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    if i was you i would get the 225 its a stonger engine to start and has more tuning potention for the future but then again its up to what you can afford at the end of the day :p

    phone them now u know u wana get a price :p
     
  19. badger5

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    You seen the rods & pins in a 210/225 motor?
    Have a look and then say you think its stronger. [:s]

    210/225 only advantage as far as I can make out is the slightly lower CR pistons. (9:1 as opposed 9.5:1 from 150 motors)
     
  20. Mr T Forum Member

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    As bill says, only difference on 210/225 is CR.

    150/180 blocks are just as strong, Maurice reeves runs two as track cars, they produce around 360Bhp, and withstand track use!

    Why not start with the 150/180 engine then upgrade in the future. Upgrade to E05/IHI and lower CR pistons.
     

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