16v head with 2mm oversized valves

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  1. RobT

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    because when I sort out my setup for running E85, I am going to have duel fuel cells - one for regular petrol (99 octane shell optimax) and the other (much smaller, maybe 5L) for 'test fuel'.

    'test fuel' is going to be several different things - not just E85 - there's a whole load of interesting fuels out there which I want to examine

    it would be nice to have the capacity to run 6 different maps with a dash switch to move between them

    its quite possible that certain fuels will be better for different conditions
     
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    I don't know for Motec but for their price they should make even coffees ;p check about them

    Interesting idea ;)
     
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    cheers for the links
     
  5. RobT

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    what about 'fuel' saturated with liquid oxygen......that could be interesting :)

    a test for my garden engine
     
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    try to not explode anything :lol::lol::thumbup:
     
  7. RobT

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    Nobody please do this - LOX is VERY dangerous and only trained scientists should be allowed to play with it in the safety of their garden sheds

    (incidentally - if you soak a charcoal brickette (barbeque fuel) in LOX and throw it at the wall - it explodes spectacularly.....but again, disclaimer: DO NOT DO THIS :) )

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    Hmm better with Nitrous i think that the correct term for it ! ask Phatty he's just discovered its uses :o

    p.s. Megasquirt will switch between 2 maps so i'm sure there are more expensive ECU that will do the trick.
     
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  9. RobT

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    nitrous is the same thing, but much safer - just adding oxygen with fuel

    has anyone ever run nitro in a regular car engine? you should know this brooky, drag race boy
     
  10. brutalmk2-16v Forum Member

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    Yep..in a nissan sunny gtir [:D]
     
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    what happened? any particular changes to engine or map?
     
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    I should change the maps but I didn't :lol:

    What happens is that for a 50k engine you get the damage of a 200k engine [:D] don't try it :thumbup: No rings left ;p
     
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    petrol A/F ratio = 14:1

    nitro A/F ratio = 1.7:1

    so your sunny would have been massively lean - no doubt the cleaver ECU would have tried to adjust this but there is no way the injectors would have been able to flow enough fuel

    lean, lean, and more lean = tatered engine; surprised it didn't just heat seize

    thinking about this - if you need about 400cc injectors for about 250hp on petrol - on nitro, you would need 3400cc for Nitro. I dont think they exist......nitro dragsters must use carbs?
     
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    Yep i know that.I then rebuilt the engine and remapped it and..woooaaaa :lol:

    I was surprised also ;p
     
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    as edited post above (No.34)- how did you get the injectors to flow enough?
     
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    I didn't use nitro as a fuel Rob.Just as additive using a NOS kit..
     
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    What management are you running on your seat btw?
     
  19. RobT

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    very old fashioned Lumenition 451 - fuel and spark, without a crank sensor - uses dizzy for timing

    but it works ok

    not available any more so at some point I need to upgrade it to something more modern
     
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    ahh - I meant nitromethane fuel (as used in top fuel dragsters) - I think it would be a real struggle to get this to work on a regular road car engine
     

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