9 pin Headlight Switch

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  1. 88jettaguy New Member

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    Hello from the USA,
    I have a project - 88 Jetta GL 1.8L RV, M/T , CE1 West German build.

    I'm swapping my Aeros for 7 inch rounds with "city lights" and
    I want in intergrate the "city lights" into my headlight wire harness.
    UK cars with city lights used a 9 pin headlight switch part #191 941 531C.
    Is a wire diagram avaiable?
    What does the 9th pin operate?

    How many positions 3 or 4 i.e. ...
    0=OFF position
    1=City Lights ON (or)
    2=Parking Lights (and City Lights) ON
    3=Headlights ON (City Lights OFF?)

    Can I get the connector (Part # please) for the headight switch or Should I / Can I get a UK complete Headlight wire harness?

    Thanks in advance for any assistance.
    Mike
     
  2. 88jettaguy New Member

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    I seem to be on the right path... https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3593428-OEM-city-light-DIY&highlight=City+Lights

    rubjonny posted a reply to steveo27 and he provided a bit of very useful info for CE2.

    I seem to be stuck and have no resource to help me wrap up the details I need.

    I want to incorperate "City Lights" in to my current headlight wire harness (Loom).

    The Challenge for me is my car is CE1... damn it :(

    I have an 8 PIN headlight switch 191 941 531 A
    switch postions:
    0 = Off
    1 = Parking lights on
    2 = Headlight on

    Back of my switch:
    58B > Ilummination Gr/Bl
    31 > Ground (earth) Br
    56 > Headlight output W/Blk
    X > Load relay Blk/Y x2
    58 > Parking, Turn & Tail Gr/G
    30 > +12v Red
    58L > open
    58R > open


    From what I understand the UK and some other Europeans countries have and use the city lights feature. I found a 9 PIN headlight switch 191 941 531 C.
    This one... https://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.de/en/schalter-2f2147.html oddly there are no image of the back of the switch.

    What I can not find is a wire diagram with the city lights powered much less included in the diagram, sorry what am I missing?

    The 9th PIN plays a role but in doing what?
    Does it turn ON the city lights alone as in by themselves?
    Does it turn OFF the city light when the headlights are turned ON?
    Do the city light just stay on?
     
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  3. rubjonny

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    I replied to your post on my profile but will reply here as well. In the UK we refer to it as 'dim dip', what it does is power up the dipped beam pin on the H4 plug dimly when the switch is in the 1st position for sidelights. For it to work you need a 9 or 11 pin switch with matching plug depending on which one you have now and what switch you end up with.

    The way it works is on the 1st click of the switch the extra pin '56D' is powered, the output from that runs to a ceramic resistor mounted on the chassis leg near the right hand headlight, then back inside the car to a wire on the yellow dipped beam power wire on the flasher switch wiring to fusebox.

    you could possibly wire up a relay triggered from sidelight power via a fat resistor to achieve the same thing, or just install brighter sidelight bulbs instead
     
  4. 88jettaguy New Member

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    Thanks again rubjonny, greatly appreciate your help here.

    Now an open question for all members... What is the part number for the connector to the 9 pin headlight switch?

    thanks to all in advance
     

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