Audi VW 6-Speed Manual Transmissions (MQ350: 02M, 02Q, & 0FB)

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  1. Dave

    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

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    This is a must read for anyone who's VAG has a 6-speed box.

    https://blog.fcpeuro.com/definitive...ansmissions-mq350-02m-02q-0fb#common-problems

    The change on Elaine's 25J can be very 'baulky' when it gets hot.
    It reminds me of the problems with MK1 4-speed boxes on my daughter's DRIVER. The solution then was changing to multi-grade oil.
    The original oil is single-grade 75W.
    From the information on this site the 6-speed box will also benefit from multi-grade oil.

    NOTE: Check out what it says about using GL-4 and not GL-5!

    I am a big fan of FUCHS oils and the oil below appears to be the one, but they appear to have stopped making it!
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    The high performance oils that they list now state: GL-4/GL-5
    So I don't know if they are suitable!?
    I shall have to get in touch with them.
     
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    Tristan Paid Member Paid Member

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    Good information, sDad.
     
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    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Normally I would just use OE gear oil from VW. but just checked the price, G052527A2 @ £37+VAT per litre :o

    Not a lot cheaper from ebay/google for genuine, though did find what looks to be the same fuchs oil you mention here:
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184778160515
     
  4. Dave

    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

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    Yes, I saw that Opie still had some John. Trouble is they are in the UK and the idiots who caused Brexit dictate that I would have to pay duty as well as carriage.
    G052527A2 is €47.60 + VAT here and it's single-grade so won't help with the poor change when hot.
    I have only found SYN 5, not SYNCRO, in Eire. SYN 5 is the GL-5 version.
     
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  5. Tristan

    Tristan Paid Member Paid Member

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    David, try Daltons.ie in Laois.
    Vw / German car specialists and enthusiasts, they'll deliver.
    I often got oil or additives from them. They're good to source stuff too, even if not in stock.
     
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    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

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    Thanks Tristan.
    You are a perfect sSon.
     
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    MUSHY 16V Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    My old tdi was snatchy second to third ended up getting the oil charged quite early in it's life to synthetic gear oil that made it a little better eventually it loosened up must be quite common
     
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    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

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    A week ago I contacted both Fuchs, in Germany, and Derrnan Oil Products, the Fuchs distributor in Eire, by e-mail.
    Germany replied asking where I live but I have heard nothing since.
     
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    I run Penrite Pro Gear 70W-75 Synthetic in the 02M in my R32 powered Touran. I'm in the north of NZ, so it's generally warmish.

    I had put in a 75W-90 initially, which brand I can't recall. It was a little stiff when cold, but worse, it would occasionally grind if you went from 3rd or 4th straight to 6th at speed.

    The Penrite 70W-75 feels nice hot and cold and I have no issues with the synchros keeping up with any changes. I do a bit of towing too, which doesn't appear to have caused any issues so far, either.
     
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    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

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    That's interesting Allan. I shall look into it.
     
  11. Dave

    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

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    Well folks after spending a lot of time trying to find a supplier in Ireland, with no help from FUCHS or their agent, I decided to bite the bullet and order from OPIE!

    Using Ebay the total cost was £79.
    On OPIE's website, without logging in to my account, the price was similar.

    When I logged in to my account the total cost reduced by around 40%!?
    So it is ordered.

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    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

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    75W/75 almost unobtainable in Eire.
    RedLine is available at €30 per litre!
     
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    Did you try Daltons?
     
  14. Dave

    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

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    Yes I did Tristan and they could not help me with FUCHS.
     
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    Tristan Paid Member Paid Member

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    That's a shame.
     
  17. Dave

    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

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    Well, the oil finally arrived.
    I had to replace a front bulb so while I had the front end off (what a ridiculous amount of work to change a bulb!?)
    I performed a full service and changed the gear oil.
    I levelled the car.
    The Bentley manual indicates a 17 mm hex key for the drain filling plugs! Turns out I needed a XZN 16 tamper proof key. I had to drill a hole in a standard XZN 16.
    The oil that came out was nasty looking. There was only about 1.8 litres! That's 500 ml less than there should have been.
    I filtered the oil and there was only little evidence of brass and steel particles.
    I put the first 2 litres in using an oil transfer pump.
    The final 300 ml went in carefully using a funnel.

    Yesterday I drove 400 km to Dublin Airport, and back, to collect Elaine and Ruth returning from a couple of weeks in Italy.
    The gear change was much better with no sign of baulking at all.
    'JOB DONE'

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