Door lock broken with screwdriver

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  1. daugavpils New Member

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    Hi All,

    Some moron tried to break into my MK3 last night.To my surprise all they done was totallty messing up driver's door lock.I have read somewhere that this way they are trying to break central locking.
    I suspect that thief may come and finish his job tonight.
    Should I fix it asap today or can I leave it till weekend?
    I have purchased this car recently.It seem to have an immbilizer but I am not sure that it works because I don't have any keys or instructions how to enable it ( I agree that was stupid).Should I get driving wheel lock today?

    Thanks a lot
    S.
     
  2. garfayliu Forum Member

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    Until you can get a new lock barrel or handle, yes, I'd go with the preventative measures for the mean time; steering lock, leave glove box empty and open, possibly even take out rear parcel shelf?

    Late mk3's have built in immobilisers in the key, you can tell if they're much chunkier and look like they can be split open, also if they have a little torch light.
     
  3. daugavpils New Member

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    Thanks a lot garfayliu!

    My key indeed has little totch light, however I can see no indication that immobilizer works, e.g. I cannot see any lights flashing or anything.There are sensors inside on the both sides of the widescereen.

    I wonder how much would be to fix the lock and whether it is worth to contact insurance company that would probably send my non claims bonus attempts down the drain...


    S
     
  4. garfayliu Forum Member

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    the immobiliser will simple stop anyone from hot-wiring your engine.

    the ultrasonic sensors and general alarm system should be controlled from a seperate keyfob, the same sort used to control the remote central locking. it would seem you didn't get the alarm key fob when your purchased the car?

    Ok, here's a pic of my keys, I have dual immobiliser on my mk3, one in the key and a seperate immobiliser fob, then I have the alarm fob used to arm and disarm the alarm.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. daugavpils New Member

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    Thank you garfayliu,

    I wish I would sorted my immobiliser earlier.I received one key when purchased my car. Is there way to reenable immobiliser or I woul d need to have it removed and replced with the new one?

    Kind Regards,
    S
     
  6. garfayliu Forum Member

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    The immobiliser works automatically, under the inition key hole there should be a rubber grommet which houses a sensor, this is linked to the cars ecu. the engine will only start if the transponder chip inside the key is within a certain distance of the sensor.

    The transponder chip contains a unique code, so if someone tried to hot wire it without the code the car would not start.
     
  7. Matt82

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    visit GSF and get some rear door handles to put onthe front.... no key holes, only a fiver and theyre genuine VW items.


    hell yeah
     
  8. daugavpils New Member

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    Hi Matt,

    Sorry for maybe stupid question , but if I put rear door handel on the front door, how will I open drivers do or if there is no lock on it?

    Regards,
    S
     
  9. daugavpils New Member

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    Hi garfayliu,

    This is what I goit on the different form:

    " mk3 door locks have the same weakness as mk2 stick a screwdriver in under the door lock and pop the door open, makes a nasty mess of the door however you can buy armour door plates to fit around the door handle to prevent this.

    if the car is a 1996 onwards it has a built in imobiliser working on the vag key, best way to check it works is get a key cut and this should open the car but when you start it it will cut out after a few seconds.
    failing that as the other forum states make it unattractive to break into ie remove everything and to prevent it being stolen remove the ht leads etc a pain I know but only till you can get the problem fixed.
    however if some one wants a car they will have it.
    we had a silver MK3 stolen which had no ecu on it they towed it away and just broke the passenger side glass to gain access."

    I cut spare key recently and it seem to start trhe car.I don't know details on how keys are made but I have been asked if key has any electronics in the shop where I had it cut.Is it possible to copy this data when key is cut?
    I think I will buy wheel lock today rfirst thing, then need to find out how much it cost to fix the lock.Does anyone know how expensive is it?
     
  10. maxmo

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    I had a key cut for my skoda fabia, but before I swapped the transponder chip I tried it in the locks and ignition to make sure it would turn. It would actually start the car without the transponder but then the engine would die and the immobiliser light come on.
    So I would say that if you just had a key cut, but no electronic coding of it done then you don't have an immobiliser. It shouldn't start and keep going with just a plain key if it has an immobiliser.
     
  11. Matt82

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    does it have an alarm with remote central locking etc? thats how mine is. the alarm fob unlocks the doors. the handles now have no locks.

    i got the alarm after an attempted break in like yours. i came back to the car and the barrel was half hanging out.
     
  12. daugavpils New Member

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    Thank you maxmo,

    I wonder if sensors are for alarm, not immobiliser.But then again, I was under impression that all post 1996 models come with built in immobiliser...

    S
     
  13. GBK

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    Could a cable be run from the battery to the starter motor? If this starts the car and it runs then there is no immobilisor? Could an immobilisor only be fitted to higher spec cars, optional on others?
     
  14. maxmo

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    Confusing.
    If you can split your key open, the transponder is a small glass capsule. If its loose take it out and try and start the car without it in, then you'll know for sure.
    If it is not loose DONT try and take it out, you don't want to smash it, otherwise its megabucks.
     
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  16. daugavpils New Member

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    Hi all ,

    Last question and I will stop bugging you - Do a I need to contact specialised gasrage to fix the lock now?

    Regards,
    S
     

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