hi i have a 2.0i 8v gti looking for more power cheap i.e engine conversion to a 2.0i 16v or vr6 but apart from the engine what else do i need i know i will need ecu but will i need a gearbox, shifter, loom, fuel pump, ect
It depends if the base car is a Kjet or Digifant MK2. The later CE2 Digifant is the best donor car for a 16V abf, it plugs straight in and minimal effort on the wiring loom. I did this conversion myself. Read Toyotec's thread here: http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.p...e-in-your-Mk2-Golf-Revisit-of-KJet-car-180610 Scroll half way down for Digifant on Toyotec's thread . Also Rubjonny is a master at engine looms, so alot of experts on this forum!!
Tis a Mk3. If you REALLY want to keep your shell, buy a donor car, swap it all over, chuck your 8v in and sell it on.
yep mk3 if i could find a full mk3 16v in good con i will buy it but i have been too look at 6 sofar and are all sheds lol owned my numptys wanting big money
all you really need is engine + accessories (airbox, inlet piping etc), engine loom, exhaust manifold and ecu. everything else will plug in or is the same. fuel pump, lines etc same on all gti mk3, 8v downpipe will fit 16v manifold, 8v gearbox and clutch will fit abf block. main thing with wiring is make sure its the same type as your old one, early mk3 have engine and lighting looms split, later ones its all bundled into one. you could use the odl loom to convert the abf loom to correct type if there is a missmatch though. other thing is immobiliser, if its pre-96 8v then it has no immobiliser wiring, so try to get pre-96 abf ecu. if you get later one you coudl have the immob defeated, or add the immobiliser + wiring inside the car. exhaust wisde the 8v is smaller bore but it probably wont make too much difference, but at a later date you could fit a 16v or vr6 exhaust to your cat as its same bore on all of them, it steps down to smaller bore after the front silencer on 8v. only thign to look out for is there are 2 lengths of cat!
Most Mk3s are sheds. The engines are bomb proof, quick service and tune up and it'll be fine. Fit a new crank sensor too.
I tell you... this man Rubjonny is a legend, he gave me loads of advice when I was fitting my abf 16V and wiring loom, he knows his stuff I should get a 1 for each guy I recommend. lol Toyotec is also good, his home built abf mk2 more door running on megasquirt that he built in a day is very quick, another clever chap lol That's 2 pounds now lol
I have a full '96 16v gti (scrap shell) with no immobiliser to convert the engine into my '97 8v gti. What exactly do I need to swap over. Is the gearboxes ratios different, if so i will be swapping that too. So engine with all auxiliaries on it and Ecu. Engine loom & dash speedo/clocks Airbox and all other inlet piping etc. Coolant pipework (guessing at least some is different) gearbox with cable change setup and hydraulic clutch setup Is there anything else? Also where does the engine plug into the rest of the loom/fuse box Haven't had a decent look yet.? Any help be great thanks
I have a 16v gti with no immobiliser donor car with a scrap shell. What exactly is needed to put into an 8v gti
Engine with all auxiliaries still on it, ecu and engine loom Airbox and all inlet piping. Coolant pipework Gearbox with cable shift and hydraulic clutch setup Exhaust Manifold Where does the engine loom connect with the rest? Fuse box? Havent looked closely yet. Is that everything
engine, loom, ecu and exhaust. you could even leave the 8v exhaust on, but may as well fit proper 16v one if you have it if you want the cable shift box then that, the cables and shifyter, pipes and master cylinder, bolt it all on job done. no need to change pedal box, you might have to change fluid reservoir but it probably has the takeoff on it anyway just snip the end off and you're sorted
Thanks very much, take it the hydraulic clutch setup can be bolted on from the outside/Engine bay? Are the boxes ratios the same?
Thanks @smudge Sorry bout the multiple posts, was on my smartphone and didn't know my posts had to be approved by a moderator till my third go. Thought my browser was playing up
Hi there, You can use the ABF engine alone and re-use the 020 8V gear you have in your MY97 Golf 3 GTI The gearbox on and 8v MK3 GTI is a 020 rod change gearbox and is geared for an engine with less torque occurring from near 2500-4000rpm. The gear set is also different to the 16v 02A CDA/DPA unit, so you may find it does not suit the character of the 16v ABF motor. You would need: ABF engine and exhaust manifold no flywheel. Engine bay/Control loom ECU Upper Airbox and air duct. If not then you will need in addition to the above, the gearbox/flywheel/clutch assembly, linkage, shifter, clutch master and possibly pedal box ( will need to confirm), hydraulic lines between gearbox slave and master.
ABF motor. You would need: ABF engine and exhaust manifold no flywheel. Engine bay/Control loom ECU Upper Airbox and air duct. If not then you will need in addition to the above, the gearbox/flywheel/clutch assembly, linkage, shifter, clutch master and possibly pedal box ( will need to confirm), hydraulic lines between gearbox slave and master.[/QUOTE] I have a full driving 16v donor car so will swap all over including the gearbox and all that's needed for it. Thanks very much Toyotec, I've only post here on this forum but done a lot of browsing and your mentioned a lot for you knowledge of the 16v engine and especially with turbocharging it. Was think about the future and like the idea of turbocharging the abf rather than a 1.8T What sort of parts are need to get around the 200/220bhp mark. Nothing serious just nice everyday power and be able to surprise a few people haha
