Mk2 project - GTI Anniversary Helios Blue

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  1. pstarkey Paid Member Paid Member

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    Bit more looking it seems to be the HY code which is the seats with the yellow stripe in them.
     
  2. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    yep helios blue and blue/yellow tartan, so a little bit special

    X2B = National sales program Great Britain
    C1N = steel rim, 6Jx14
    G0C = 5-speed manual transmission
    H0G = Tires 185/60 R14 H
    J0C = Battery 220 A (45 Ah)
    K8G = Hatchback
    L0R = Right-hand drive vehicle
    M3X = 4-cylinder gasoline engine 1.8 L/82 kW DIGIFANT base engine is T3E
    U0L = Instrument insert with tachometer clock and mph speedometer
    V0A = tyres without determination of tyre brand
    0A1 = 2 doors
    0NH = Nameplate set "GTI"
    1AF = Power brake
    1C1 = Antifreeze up to -25 degree celsius tolerance up to -30 degree C
    1G6 = Space-saving spare wheel
    1H1 = Load-sensitive proportioning valve
    1ME = sports steering wheel, 370mm
    2JD = sports bumpers (? mine has 2JE for partially painted bumpers, so not sure what the deal is)
    3AU = Right exterior mirror: aspherical, adjustable from inside
    3BD = Left exterior mirror: adjustable from inside, convex
    3D1 = Center console
    3KZ = Sport seats, front
    3L2 = Manual height adjustment for right frontseat
    3U1 = Foldable trunk cover
    3YB = Door pockets, front
    8D4 = 4 speakers (passive)
     
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  3. Zender Z20 Paid Member Paid Member

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    Was trying to find again the reference I'd read about the expansion tank / CE2 electrics being an indicator of a genuine big bumper car but unfortunately can't.

    Nearly sure though it was something RJ wrote somewhere, I believe the thinking was that alot of the other changes could potentially be retro fitted relatively easily, but to change out the wiring loom and the metal work to fit a later header tank was taking things to extremes and though not impossible, probably unlikely... so if present those two things are a good initial / quick check before delving deeper.

    Did find this though... another RJ article but cribbed / cut'n'pasted into a post on the MK2Golf OC... and copied yet again below!

    Quote from: rubjonny

    all mk2s had the electrics change/moved hazard switch in late 89 (as in when they were made not when they were registered over here)

    GTI all got big bumpers, thinner side strips, different arches and sill extensions. The GL got big bumpers but retained the thicker rubbing strips and used arch spats. all lower spec models had small bumpers still, with the old small bumper arches and chunky rubbing strips

    dont confuse the 90spec thin rubbing strips with the pre-88 rubbing strips which were also thin, but these were stuck on and say a little lower on the car.

    loads of other minor differences over the years i can list em all if you really care :lol:

    ok here are all the changes i have found so far:

    85ish changes:
    dual tip exhausts on GTI models
    dual exhaust cutout on rear lower valance introduced
    MK1 style side stripes dropped
    side repeaters added
    single washer tank/pump instead of separate bottles/pumps for front/rear

    Kerrly edit
    1986 - 16v introduced
    Came with stick on thin black rubbing strips with a sticky red stripe above them
    bottletop alloys
    42mm inlet manifold
    different ECU - il see if i can find part numbers



    August 87 changes:
    5 slat grill replaces old 7 slat grill
    front 'GTI' & 'GTI 16v' grill badge font & clip design changed
    left side rear 'VW' roundel & 'Volkswagen' badges removed, larger central 'VW' roundel with indent in panel introduced, right side 'Golf' badge font changed
    single piece glass front doors replace 2 piece MK1 style doors, mirror moved to front of door
    digifant injection replaces k-jet on 8v models
    chunkier stalks introduced
    wiper arms swapped to the other side on RHD models
    chunky rubbing strips
    bonnet & washer jets changed
    better quality dash fitted to all models as standard?
    steering wheel changed to single button

    88-89 changes:
    digifant engines now have a blue 2 pin push fit ECU coolant temp sender, earlier models have a white threaded 2 pin sender
    large spline wheel column adaptors start being fitted
    handbrake lever & mount bracket, cables & rear calipers changed
    light switch changed to 11 pin
    16vs got red/black tinted rear clusters, also on 8v '1 in 10 million' edition
    256mm brakes on 16v
    2 piece plastic timing belt cover
    16v got 50mm inlet manifold

    89-90 changes (90 spec):
    almost all car loom changed
    engine management loom hole on rain tray moved
    front wings all have 2 holes for big bumper brackets
    hazard switch moved to top of steering column
    dash clocks now have 1 plug instead of 2
    fusebox
    coolant level sensor control relay removed, now internal to clocks (except with digifiz dash, relay is retained but different slot)
    16vs got plain rubber injector lines instead of braided
    thin rubbing strips, sill trims & front fogs on GTIs
    big bumpers on GTIs & GLs
    outer column housing
    ignition lock housing
    ignition switch
    stalks
    fusebox holder brackets
    driver side dash under tray
    fusebox cover
    boot carpet made of foam instead of carpet
    colour coded boot plinth on GTI
    wiper spindles are thicker
    header tank, lower hose, cap, level sender, level sender plug & mounting bracket
    longer gearbox earth to a stud on engine->gearbox mounting bolt introduced
    lower engine bay heat shield on 8v GTI models
    sidelight holders have different plug
    front indicators have different plug
    horn loom has different plug
    reverse switch has different plug

    later 90 model improvements:
    key in ign live for stereo
    chunky plastic scuttle & ecu covers
    side impact bars in doors
    loom tape instead of thick plastic sheathing stuff
    stainless sunroof deflector arms
     
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  4. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    to add to this, pre89 CE2 jetta have funky clocks which are kinda half ce1 and half ce2 that require the level sensor in the fusebox as well, rare as the proverbial. and some vin data:

    MK2 production dates/chassis number spread
    01.08.1983 - 19-E-300001 (why not 000001? germans eh :lol:)
    31.07.1992 - 1G-N-300000

    chassis number production dates for major shell changes:
    31.07.1987 - 19-H-990000 - last month early doors were fitted
    31.07.1988 - 19-JB200000/19-JW990000 - last month of typ19 production (JBxx means made in Brussels, JWxx means made in Wolfsburg)
    01.08.1988 - 1G-KB000001/1G-KW000001 - first typ 1G chassis rolls off the production line
    ??.11.1988 - 1G-KB075001/1G-KW240001 - 256mm brakes fitted to 16v
    ??.12.1988 - 1G-K-400001 - CE2 electrics fitted to jetta
    01.08.1989 - 1G-L-000001 - CE2 electrics fitted to golf


    spot the weirdness:
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  5. pstarkey Paid Member Paid Member

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    Restoration continues, so with the car running ok it is booked in for a rolling road and carb tune early August – quite a wait, but they are the go to in my area.

    Did have a useful chat to them – suggested a fuel pressure gauge to check pressure is not to high into the carbs and just pushing needle jets down, pressure was way to high 10-11 PSI, turns out I had put the diaphragm in the regulator the wrong way up so could not adjust it all sorted now and sits at circa 5 PSI, there is concern that the in tank pump that just feeds the small electric Facet pump under the car is pushing fuel at against that with no return (swirlpot has been removed) so I need to look at what to do there, perhaps need to put swirlpot back with a return to tank then pump to push fuel to regulator and change that to one with a return back to swirlpot?

    Found a trimmer who can sort the seat and waiting for a quote, but they think £350-£400 for the drivers I have some spare fabric, this may be the only way to get it looking right. I then need to attempt the headlining and get the correct cassette player for it give the interior a good clean and then it’s done.

    Bodywork is next so started tackling the rust (well a fabricator has) this week – OSR arch, sills/jacking points, wings and scuttle. Removed the wipers to help with access. A fair bit of work to do here.

    Is there a go to on windscreens? Get one from Heritage? Claim on insurance and get them to fit it or go to an independent windscreen place?

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  6. pstarkey Paid Member Paid Member

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    Fuel pressure results, also was advised to check ignition advance - I got a strobe with the dial so was able to plot RPM vs advance by knowing the marks where 6 degrees as standard then for various RPM adjusting the strobe to line the marks up and adding the 6 degrees. Tried with the vac line to ECU attached and not, idle is set to 12 and it was max'ed out at 42 degrees with vac line connected and 34 with it not with fairly smooth line so assume this is about right?

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    PhilRyder Paid Member Paid Member

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    Got our screen from Heritage and it was perfectly fine, we can see though it and everything!
     
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  8. RichardDarrenB Paid Member Paid Member

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    300-400 for the drivers seat retrim is a bit rich. Surely you could buy a mint passenger seat or even full interior to pillage for nowhere near that.
     
  9. pstarkey Paid Member Paid Member

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    Agree, but if its 2 days works for them at circa £200/day I can see how they get there. I am constantly on the lookout for a passenger seat in the right fabric so keeping that option open.
     
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  10. RichardDarrenB Paid Member Paid Member

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    2 days?! To do a seat or the whole interior? I'd shop around. Where are you based?
     
  11. pstarkey Paid Member Paid Member

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    There is a part interior on ebay - but its only back seat, which I have and passenger back seat section, so overall its not helping as I have spare fabric.
     
  12. RichardDarrenB Paid Member Paid Member

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    I'd try hold out. I paid 140 on ebay for a complete interior with door cards, it was the more common tartan but it was 90 spec so less common in that respect. The bargains are out there if you are happy to wait
     
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    I think that is about right for a seat. After bodywork, upholstery is probably the most expensive thing to get done well on a car.
     
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    Some repair panels welded in and a new wings - aftermarket so fit not 100% and needed some fettling but got there, hope to get some paint on it in the next couple of weeks.

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  15. pstarkey Paid Member Paid Member

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    Now in paint.
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    Coming along really well Paul ...you don't muck around ,wow, going to be a fantastic car when finished ,good luck ,cheers.
     
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  17. pstarkey Paid Member Paid Member

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    Well its been painted and I should pick it up this week, still a few bits to refit wipers, arches and side skirts - is glueing or Tigersealing these on an option? Rear wiper needs sorting as well.

    Off for a rolling road on Monday and hopefully get the carbs setup. Still lots of jobs to do interior (headlining, seats and radio), gearbox is lacking syncro on 2nd and 3rd so that needs a rebuild and I want to replace the aftermarket headlights with originals and get the foglights fitted. I think I will do belts as well with waterpump and coolant change.


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    Car looking good with the fresh paint. What exhaust is it?
     
  19. pstarkey Paid Member Paid Member

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    Thanks. Its a Jetex system was on the car when I got it nice sounds it has a 4 branch manifold as well.

    looks like it needs adjusting slightly in the pictures which I will sort.
     
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    Looking really nice [:D]
     
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