Was there an option for a rear sway bar on the 1984 Rabbit? I looking for improvements for our 1/4 mile circle track car, and am trying to correct the under steer problem, Any photos , or information on rear sway bars is appreciated. Thanks
sway bar I do not see a sway bar ( or anti roll bar) in that photo. I see that they have triangulated the axle with some relay rods, but no sway bars. I am wondering based on the design of the rear trailing axle if there is any advantage to using a sway bar since the axle would rise or fall nearly equally on the left to right. Still open to suggestions, and thanks.
VW fitted anti-roll bars (sway bars) as standard to some models of the Mk1 Golf/Rabbit. According to ETOS, the 1984 GTI had a 20.5mm rear (part # 171 511 409) if that's any help. (For reference the front is 175 411 309.) Eibach make/made uprated front and rear anti-roll bars/sway bars for the Mk1 Golf/Rabbit. Hope this helps!
Only other kind of setup i can think your on about is something like this: Which was drastic, expensive & totally custom made.
Going on from the other post that 71raceVW has made, it appears that he might not have a GTI chassis - hence no rear anti-roll bar (sway bar). I took his posts to mean that he just wanted to know if the Mk1 ever came with them as standard on any models. ??
In which case if you see the two holes about an inch down from the top of the axle horizontal section: they are the factory inner mount holes for the OE ARB, and should be present on a 1984 axle, even if no bar is fitted.
What do you think of the Eibach rear anti roll bars? because looking at mine they don't seem to look as effective as other makes i have seen.
Rea sway bar My rear axle appears to have the two pair of holes that allow the sway ARB from a GTI model to be installed. I would love to build the independent rear suspension as posted, as this would be the ultimate for sure. I will experiment with various ARB until I encounter the left rear wheel lifting on the track, and then back off the diameter, or bar length. There are some limitations based on the simple and light trailing axle design, but I will still beat those Honda's somehow. Thanks for the help!
The car is set up for counter clockwise on a banked 1/4 mile oval track. Right front camber is -3.5 degrees camber, left is +2.0. I have the rears to about -1.0 degrees camber. Best tire patch is confirmed with taking tire temperature reading. Its a beginner class for my two teenage boys and they have a blast. Lots of rules to restrict cost and speed, but rules are subject to interpetation. Anyway, I still feel that I have two much push, ( understeer) and wanted to try ARB at the rear. I will search for an ARB from a GTI. Thanks for the help, best forum that I have ever joined!
Try the gti one & maybe the later uprated ones a few company's have made after that. Maybe if some people could post a pic of theirs on here we can compare because i am sure there are are at least two types for the rear where the ends attach to?
Thanks, the photo posted by MK1 driver is a big help. I will search out for a sway bar, as I will also go to the Neuspeed web site. Just courious, did you notice any improvements handling after the install of the ARB? Thanks again.
Difficult to say improvement wise as I changed so much on the car, 1.3 > 1.8 16v engine, new suspension, new bushes, different wheels... The current setup is FK coilovers, Bugpack bushes, standard GTI front anti-roll bar (19mm?), 28mm Neuspeed rear bar, OMP front lower strut brace, ET38 steel wheels. (front camber -1.25 degrees) The car feels very nimble (noticed a good improvement from firmer axle bushes) and is really stable on wide open circuits. Not much help really but if you haven't already got a GTI rear anti-roll bar, you should definately notice a difference from one fitted. A front lower strut braces helps as well but it doesn't look as though you can use one in the regs, likewise with a larger aftermarket anti-roll bar?
I will get a pic up of my eibach rear if no-one does over the weekend as i dont think they connect to the same place as the on Neuspeed one?
Where does the standard one on a mk2 mount up? Isnt it built into the axle on GTIs? So you cant put one onto a non GTI? Sorry for all the dumb questions, just curious.