Road/Track Tyre Pressures

Discussion in 'Track Prep & Tech' started by kempj1, Sep 21, 2004.

  1. kempj1 Forum Member

    Myself and a colleague of mine, who does trackdays on a bike, were discussing tyres at great length.

    I had been on the net looking for trackdays and was reading up a section on 'Palmer Sport' about how to prepare your car for a day at the track. Here it stated that it's a good idea to over inflate your tyres by a few PSI so that they will perform better on the track.

    However, my colleague Dave always lets his bike tyres down a bit for the track. This is because he expects them to get hot and therefore the pressure will rise, staying within the manufacturers recommendation.

    Surely it's the same for cars? Especially on the fronts where you'd expect a hell of a lot of heat from the brakes (if you have nigh-on standard ones like me).

    By the way, I have a Mk2 with the P-slot 14" alloys and Yoko A539s - so it's not exactly a wild load of rubber. Considering the 'high profile' of these tyres I reckon changing the pressures will make even more difference to side wall rigidity.

    Does anyone mess about with their tyre pressures on or off the track ?
     
  2. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

    You over inflate your hot pressures... so you under inflate cold.
     
  3. kempj1 Forum Member

    So if you're about to get your tyres hot then you'd let some air out first?
     
  4. GVK

    GVK Paid Member Paid Member

    That's what I do, both on road tyres and slicks.

    Run them at around 25 cold, then they'll increase to 'around' 30 psi hot.
    Obviously the left front will get hottest s you might need bleed more out of that tyre.

    Experiment, it costs nothing. :)
     
  5. kempj1 Forum Member

    Thanks pal.
    Off to the continent on Saturday morning. Come on :clap:

    Ring Taxi's fully booked until next year [:s] Maybe get a late cancellation though....
     
  6. seanlazyass Forum Member

    Im also in the process of purchasing trackday tyres, found any good websites?

    So far Iv used 195/50/15 Eagle F1's on track and have played around with the tyre pressures quite a lot. At Castle Combe I started off with the tyres on road pressures 30/31psi front 28/29 rear and found them to heat up quite a lot without pushing them particularly hard. Next time out I dropped them slightly thinking they would come up and settle nearer normal running pressures. But instead I found them to rise even more and I was experiencing quite a lot of tyre roll (also killing the outside edges of the tyres). At their hottest the front left was on 44psi!

    I found starting them on +4ish psi than road settings meant they stayed cooler and I had less tyre roll.

    The lower the pressures in the first place the more flex you will get in the tyre wall which means more friction and heat, resulting in higher pressures.

    Although it depends on your driving style and how you like the car to feel. I prefer the tyres sliding slightly rather than the tyre walls rolling.

    Sean





    Edited by: seanlazyass
     
  7. GVK

    GVK Paid Member Paid Member

    I should of said, what I prefer, some might not :lol:

    Get some used slicks, don't piss about with AO48s etc.

    But, you can't use slicks on the 'ring.
    Edited by: G_V_K
     
  8. kempj1 Forum Member

    I agree Sean - better to use the part of the tyre that god intended.

    Try www.mytyres.co.uk - I got some bargain yokohamas from there.

    Thanks & regards, JK
     
  9. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

    Slicks - wonder where they come from... ;) :lol:
     
  10. GVK

    GVK Paid Member Paid Member

    Michelin or the rubber plant ;)
     
  11. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

    lol - must PM Iguana back too!

    (he needs help finding the rubber plant...)
     
  12. kempj1 Forum Member

  13. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

    Bet i get them cheaper though ;)
     
  14. kempj1 Forum Member

    I bet you can - not sure how though. Do have your own rubber plant ? :lol:
     
  15. GVK

    GVK Paid Member Paid Member

    Hate to LET Tub's secret out, but you know the tyres they line circuits with?..... :lol:
     
  16. velly_16v_cab

    velly_16v_cab Forum Junkie

    i need new rubber [:s]
     
  17. kempj1 Forum Member

    :lol:

    Farmers usually have quite a few knocking about too....
     
  18. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

    There is a canal nearby too.... ;) :lol:
     
  19. iguana Forum Member

    Was begining to think you had an alergic reaction to the reply button :lol:
     

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