Starter Motor - Clicking - Looks like a seized engine or gearbox now :-(

Right then. Im hopefully going to get to the bottom of this today!

I'll whip the plugs out and see if i can turn the engine by hand. Hopefully it works ...

 

Yep, the engine was turned over before when i set the timing.

Flywheel and starter were from my 8v engine, so were matched up before hand.

Clutch was ok, and the friction disc was centralised once fitted.

 

Good luck Rich.

 

Took the plugs out, tried to turn over by hand and its completely stuck!!

So im guessing its either a flywheel problem or the engine is siezed [:^(]

I'll whip the engine and gearbox out i think and investigate the flywheel.

Im thinking it could be a flywheel problem as the engine was turning freely beforehand when the gearbox or flywheel wasn't fitted.

Looks like an engine out jobby then. Let the fun begin

 

Sorry for stating the obvious again but I guess the car is in neutral?

 

Yea definitely

Im sure it has to be a flywheel alignment issue.

So far i know -

* Starter works ok

* Will not turn over with plugs out

* Engine feels stuck fast

Ive towed it to my house as my lock up is getting a new door put on tomorrow.

Once i can get access to my garage i'll whip the engine out, remove the gearbox and flywheel and see if it turns over.

As i said earlier, the engine did turn over before when the gearbox and flywheel wasn't fitted, as i had to set the timing, so im guessing the only possibilitys are -

* Wrongly aligned/jammed flywheel.

* Seized engine - Hopefully unlikely.

 

Have you tried turning the engine backwards?

 

Yep, and it still wont budge

 

My starter motor kept clicking too. Clicks like mad when you turn the key and wouldn't start the engine.

I changed to Starter motor as i thought it was dead. But the new one did the same.

so i Changed the battery and it stopped clicking and started the car.

 

I did try this first of all with the battery off the Mk4, but it was the same.

Ive narrowed it all down to either being the flywheel jammed, or a seized engine.

 

I hope its not the latter mate

 

Lets hope not

 

Looks like the engine is siezed!!!

Ive had a family mechanic round tonight. He had a good look.

We also took the rocker cover off and poured oil over the cams to lubricate everything up, as it has been sitting in the lock up with no oil inside.

This didn't do anything, so we ended up towing it around the block to the try and free the engine.

The front wheels kept locking right up, so its either -

* The crank is siezed.

* Or the gearbox is stuck shut.

[:^(][:^(][:^(]

 

I want to cry too [:^(]

How long has it been stood with no oil?

 

Lets hope its the gearbox! If you have turned it by hand since setting the timing i cant see it becoming locked over night!

 

I know [:^(]

Since i bought it in september really. It did have a small amount of oil in it, but my previous 8v was stood for a whole year without oil, and that was absolutely fine. Probably the most reliable 8v ive owned.

Hope so Mat

This is what i was thinking, but the gearbox was fine before. I was driving the MK2 a day or so before i whipped the 8v out, and all was fine.

What i'll do is take the gearbox off and see if i can turn the engine by hand. If it does budge then it is a gearbox problem.

 

Did you try turning the engine over by hand when you installed the flywheel?

The 20v engines do not have blind holes in the crank so if the flywheel bolts are ever so slightly too long they will touch inside of the block i.e the end mains cap and lock the engine.

I talk from experience of a similar problem which turned out to be the above.

 

Once the gearbox and flywheel were fitted, i then tried to crank the engine over.

Should i have used the original 20v bolts which bolt the clutch plate to the crank, as i used the bolts from the 8v ?

 

Did you find out what was wrong Rich?