The origins of the Schrick alloy sump

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  1. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    I've been meaning to post on this topic for a while, as I scooped a few VWM catalogues out of France a while back and noticed something interesting.

    Anyway, Razzer, VWM parts collector extrodinaire, posted this up yesterday on this thread:

    It is not a Schrick sump, but it is very close, near as dammit:

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    It's the VWMotorsport forerunner, part no S05 510 360 1SP [:-B]

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    I think most of the baffles look identical. The front edge around the oil pump area is steeper on the VWM sump, and I wonder if the front-left most baffles are shorter on the Schrick. I can't quite see the front left of centre VWM baffle (any chance of a pic from the side Ray?).

    I was convinced oil was racing up the front of the sump on my Schrick a couple of years back - and removed it. The Reeves Mk1 had the same, and has been internally modified.

    Any VWM-Schrick differences would be well worth seeing :thumbup:
     
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    So, say if I knew where there was one of those ;)

    What would it be worth?
     
  3. romaingirardlamamy

    romaingirardlamamy Forum Member

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    And what about the oettinger two pieces sump
    Nice piece too
     
  4. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    Oettinger is very different I think inside?


    Looking at the design, its value is dependent on whether a Schrick is any better + obligatory motorsport scene tax.

    A side photo from Razzer would help :thumbup:
     
  5. Razzer Forum Member

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    Hi Chris
    will sought it in the morning
     
  6. Brookster

    Brookster Paid Member Paid Member

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    Nice Work anymore info would be good :thumbup:
     
  7. romaingirardlamamy

    romaingirardlamamy Forum Member

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    Oettinger is different
    but similar principal
    Baffled and alloy with cooling thin on the outside
     
  8. HPR

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    also Nothelle Tuning had his own alloy sump

    Here the Spiess / HOR sump,
    IMO this is the best alloy sump ever made , good oil control with flap doors and VERY strong

    http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Album=CJ7FLFUB


    The other alloy sumps tend to crack from the first serious impact, thats why most went to steel sump
     
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  9. retrowhore Forum Member

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    I'll see if it's up for grabs. I do fancy building mine up with proper VWMS style bits.
     
  10. Razzer Forum Member

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    Morning,

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  11. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    Thanks Ray, it looks almost the same, but the two baffles on the back wall (red circles) are shallower on the wall height compared to this:

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    Could be to do with fitting windage trays? maybe? [:s]

    + as mentioned (circled in blue):

    I would say there's not a huge amount in it. The main concern I had with the Schrick was oil running out of the centre up towards the oil pump body on right handers. There's not a lot to stop it & I don't think one is better than the other in that respect. Interesting to see though, really appreciate that :thumbup:
     
  12. Razzer Forum Member

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    I could take the sump pan off the Judd and see how close the windage tray sits on top of the baffles,will have to move a few things around to get to it bit tight for space at the moment !
     
  13. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    I was thinking of the VW diesel windage trays re: the Schrick. Is yours running that one, or the VWM steel one from the catalogue above?

    Pics updated above with markings on them for ease.

    I think the baffle that runs from the oil drain hole is shallower in height on the Schrick also.
     
  14. Brian.G

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    Is the schrick sump any good?
     
  15. thegave Forum Member

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    I have what's meant to be a Schrick sump but it doesn't have Schrick stamped on it anywhere. Also doesn't have the oil return barb as in Chris's pictures.

    Is there such thing as fake Schrick sumps?
     
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    could be an interesting sideline for Brian, design and cast some uber sumps
     
  17. retrowhore Forum Member

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    I'd be interested.
     

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