Hi Folks, a quick response would be great thanks!! just put a new oil pump into my abf block and i intended to use the big black placcy thing that goes around the oil pickup and a windage tray, (like tubs does). But the 2 won't fit on together, there is not enough clearance to fit the tray and then put the pump back in. So do i keep the windage tray and dump the big placcy thing or forget about the windage tray and keep the placcy thing. TBH the placcy thing looks like it will stop a lot of lateral oil surge and the top is like the windage tray only smaller. But then i know most of the 16v boys use a tray. GRRR want to try and assemble the block tonight.
Hey, just the man, good time to turn up How did you get yours to fit, don't you use both??, i was just considering cutting up the placcy thing to keep the fins but dump the windage bit?? Also if i dump the windage tray it means i'll need to get a new sump gasket which means it's defo not getting finished tonite.
I've got the tin sump on mine with the plastic baffle, no tray, only time I've had surge problems was at Mallory, full tilt around Gerrads, and heard a death rattle from the crank Only thing you've got to be careful with , with the ally sump, is if you catch it on a kerb or anything, the tin sump will dent, the ally one will crack.
Yeh, but your's has been strengthened by Nasa I've fitted a few ally sumps to mk4s and Boras where they've been bottomed out and lost their oil.
Oh well placcy thing it is then, i was sure you were using a windage tray as well thou tubs. just had a look and i can't really see how i can cut up the placcy thing to make it fit with the tray. [:^(] So much for all those threads ages ago about fitting windage trays to stop the oil sloshing around the crank so much. So i'd be correct in saying that if you want to use a windage tray then you really need to get a proper baffled sump.
Oh yeah with my springs don't think bottoming out will be a problem , anyway trackcar only really so the alloy one should be fine. Still means i'll have to get a new sump gaskets tomorrow and urine about taking the windage tray back to GSF [:^(]
Ian, cant emphasise enough about using a proper sump and not the ally one - there are far too many of those sumps that get cracked and urine all the oil out
I assume the "placcy thing" is the baffle on the oil pump pick up? I fitted a windage tray to my 6A and the oil pump with the baffle still on. It all fit perfectly well
Cheers for the pics barny, all the baffled sumps i've seen have been a lot more complicated than that. i could probably get dad to knock up something similar tomorrow. I'll use the tin sump then Chris. I'll take a pic tomorrow, mr brown of the pick and windage tray.
Mine came from robt, tisnt like the one pictured, has little spring loaded doors inside, and the windage plate is a feck off hooge steel plate. Also has a spacer plate and three fecking gaskets !!
Also we carry most types of alloy sumps in stock at work, its almost one a day lately that we sell ....
All fixed now, i've made up a baffled sump just like duffs and keep the windage tray. Judging by the haynes manual the early kr had a little placcy thing on the pickup which would probably fit with the windagre tray, maybe thats the same as yours Mr brown, unlike my late kr and abf ones which are the same, a big black thing about 200 x 150mm by about 70mm deep. Cheers anyway guys.
