Which HT leads (fitting problem with halfrauds make)

Discussion in 'Electrical' started by fthaimike, Apr 8, 2011.

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  1. FTHAIMIKE

    fthaimike Forum Addict

    Damn that seems a lot of work to make up a lead.

    & tools required...
     
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    fthaimike, Apr 12, 2011
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  2. FTHAIMIKE

    fthaimike Forum Addict

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    fthaimike, Apr 12, 2011
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  3. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

    just get a set from here, sorted:
    http://www.vwspares.co.uk

    the old leads are designed for the old mk1 style dizzy cap/coil, the halfords ones are for newer cap/coil. they're actually MK2 Golf ones thats why they wont fit youer cap properly. the lead end as above you just remove the nipples by unthreading them
     
    rubjonny, Apr 12, 2011
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  4. FTHAIMIKE

    fthaimike Forum Addict

    They fit the cap ok iirc?

    Forgot to put a pic of the cap:
    [​IMG]
     
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    fthaimike, Apr 12, 2011
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  5. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

    ya thats early stylee cap, so the halfords leads wont fit it. avs only list 1 type of lead set for the mk1, which will fit that cap :)

    check your coil tho, make sure the connector on it looks the same as that cap
     
    rubjonny, Apr 12, 2011
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  6. Dave

    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

    Sorry Mike, I'd forgotten how complex the Beru method is, compared with just screwing the cable in on NGK types![:$]

    I don't know Magnacore, so can't comment.

    John's mention of the different dizzy cap fittings on, pre 1984 - DX versus post 1984 - EV motors is, as usual, spot on. I know that you did mention DX early on, but I overlooked the different type of connector at the dizzy end![8(]

    I must say that John's point to VWSpares does get you the Beru ZEF type which I am pretty sure are Silicone-Copper?
     
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    Dave, Apr 12, 2011
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  7. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

    i dunno what they are but all the beru leads ive got from them have been spot on :thumbup:
     
    rubjonny, Apr 12, 2011
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  8. FTHAIMIKE

    fthaimike Forum Addict

    Yes same connection on the coil:
    [​IMG]
     
    fthaimike, Apr 12, 2011
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  9. FTHAIMIKE

    fthaimike Forum Addict

    ^ ^ they do look the same as the Halfrauds ones mind????


    Just ordered online so hopefully are ok, cheers.
     
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    fthaimike, Apr 12, 2011
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  10. Dave

    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

    Is this the one Mike?

    ZEF432 Lead Set
     
    Dave, Apr 12, 2011
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  11. MUSHY 16V

    MUSHY 16V Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    you dont get the leads from vw but you can get all the conectors the wire is all so listed

    the ones for the cap/coil are 036035281
    and the spark plug end is 032035255
    not sure if the price is for 4 or each i am sure john would know
    you all so get a adaptor bit so you can use ordinary leads that is 111905427 in the coil and cap
    but as john has said you could go to the mk2 cap
     
    MUSHY 16V, Apr 12, 2011
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  12. Dave

    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

    Actually Mush.

    One wonders if there would be a better electrical connection by converting EV Ignition to DX type?[:s]

    Bigger contact areas on the terminals!:thumbup:
     
    Dave, Apr 12, 2011
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  13. FTHAIMIKE

    fthaimike Forum Addict

    :thumbup: yes mate, that's the set i ordered.

    Mushy regarding VAG items when i was up there they said only some of the 5 leads were still being stocked for the mk1 DX though on the mk1 the dizzy cap is at the front of the engine as apposed to the side of the block so very close to the spark plugs, only the coil one is the longer troublesome one so you could probably get away with a later model if you had them layed out in front of you and matched up the length and connections.
     
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    fthaimike, Apr 12, 2011
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  14. Dave

    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

    Just out of interest:

    VWMS Used the following on the Gruppe A 16V cars:

    Coil - 0 221 122 399 (Bosch)

    Ignition Cable Set - N 100 526 14

    All of the other bits are SP or VWM numbers.

    So, in real terms, they used some very basic kit on the 193bhp rally cars!
     
    Dave, Apr 12, 2011
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  15. FTHAIMIKE

    fthaimike Forum Addict

    cheers, always nice to know.
     
    fthaimike, Apr 12, 2011
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  16. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

    they do look similar to the halfords kit becasue the only difference is the dizzy/coil ends. the difference is the later leads use liek a pin inside the holes on the cap, which the spring clip you pictured on your lead clips onto. thew later leads have kinda wings, which spread out to touch the outside of the cap holes. its hard to explain :lol:

    you can just see these wings poking out of the ends of the leads in the AVS picture. i prefer the later type as the leads clip in nicely, but it doesnt actually make any difference just as long as you have a complete matching set. mixing and matching isnt good
     
    rubjonny, Apr 13, 2011
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  17. FTHAIMIKE

    fthaimike Forum Addict

    HT leads arrived today, big thanks for all your help.

    Much better quality and like said much better connections, even had VW numbers on them.

    Only small niggle is that the coil lead could be a little bit longer.

    cheers

    mike
     
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    fthaimike, Apr 14, 2011
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  18. FTHAIMIKE

    fthaimike Forum Addict

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    fthaimike, Apr 14, 2011
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