mk2 1.6 more power!

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  1. herrnuki New Member

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    ok guys i'm new to this forum
    i have a few questions for you
    how can i get more power from mine mk2 1.6 engine
    it is now runing on pierburg 2e2 engine is all standard and in a realy great shape
    which mods shall i do to get something close to 100hp from current 75hp
    cheers!!!
     
  2. pigbladder Forum Addict

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    gti cam ftw
     
  3. herrnuki New Member

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    thx mate for your reply do you know some other mods i could do?
    i know abbout weber 32/34DMTL and if i find one i will definetly give it a try altought i dont have any probs with current pierburg 2e2
    which kind of increase will i notice with gti cam?
    i was thinking abbout gti ignition system with knock sensor altought i dono could it be fitted on this block will i get anything with that and increasing compresion ?
     
  4. pigbladder Forum Addict

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    yeah you could do the weber , gas flowed head , exhuast manifold etc...doubt you will be near 100hp though

    the money would be best put toward a bigger engine really
     
  5. herrnuki New Member

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    yes mate i know it isnt realy best choice for more power but i want to stay at 1600cc just have a bit more power :)
    engine block is in great shape autodata says factory commpresion for this block is arround 9-13bar and i have 13bar +-0,1bar on all four cilinders :)
    for exhaust which system is better for this engine currently it is 4-1 shall i go for 4-2-1 maybe?
     
  6. R.b!n_16v Forum Member

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    4-2-1 manifold 272 cam and double 40mm webers? does the standard 1600 has smaller valves then the gti? Maybe find a gti if it fits?
     
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    I have a weber carb, 8v GTI manifold and downpipe, and 16v GTI exhaust system.
    With 8v GTI brakes its quite nippy.
    I'm looking to fit a GTI cam when I can be bothered.
     
  8. herrnuki New Member

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    hmm im not realy sure but i think gti has bigger inlet valves then 1.6
    muppet9966 do you have some video of acceleration have all those mods changed engine power in any way?
    cheers
     
  9. bens_cab Forum Junkie

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    or just fit a gti lump for less cost than buying all those bits?
     
  10. muppet9966 Forum Member

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    Sorry no video, but it definitely did feel faster (maybe it was the grunt of the GTI exhaust - lol)
     
  11. Richard Mk2

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    I'd go for a

    * GTI cam
    * GTI manifold and downpipe
    * Full exhaust system (Jetex/Scorpion)
    * Twin webers or single
    * GTI gearbox
    * 1.8 carb bottom end

    Will definitely notice the difference :thumbup:

    In a way i wish i had kept the original 1.8 carb in my Mk2 and modified it, but in the end i went for a GTI 8v conversion :thumbup:
     
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  13. drunkenalan Paid Member Paid Member

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    seriously, bin the 1600 fit a 2000
     
  14. Ben S

    Ben S Forum Junkie

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    spend no money.

    save it till you can justify a bigger engine or a different car.

    Just for reference:
    I had a 1.6 8v and did gti camshaft, weber 32/34, bolt on air filter, and a gti 8v downpipe (early) with matching exhaust.

    no other mods and it made 102 hp on AmD Essex dyno.

    This was a decent step up, and good to drive, but additional components like twin 40's, 4-2-1 exhaust manifold, flowed head have worse cost to benefit ratio.
     
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    I'm glad you didn't. Best 15 quid I ever spent. It's still alive in a low mileage jetta. Was awesome with a GTi cam too.
     
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  17. AjVR Forum Member

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    I had Piper 272 and the webber replacement carb on mine.

    Was good fun until I could afford a bigger engine. Plus you can normally get your money back on the parts easily enough.
     
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    Hmmm, so all i need is the GTI camshaft :lol:
     
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    plus fitting the 239mm vented discs is cheap and improves confidence on those twisty roads, plus a gti front ARB goes on reasonably easily and does cut out some body roll. In theory fitting a front ARB without the rear ARB should increase under-steer. Can't say I ever noticed as it was very chuckable both before and after.

    vented brake discs is a very good and cheap mod though.

    (I sold my Driver years back, still miss it. Never did any power mods as the intent was always to buy a nice low miles 8v gti. I know the insurance is more for a gti but the cost of the car is little different, worth the extra 500 IMHO)
     
  20. herrnuki New Member

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    wow guys thx for your reply's helped alot
    i decided to give those mods a try beacose ~100hp will be more then enought for mine daily
    i will go tomorow and search for gti camshaft and other components
    someone knows the difference betwen pre and post 87 gti camshaft i ask beacose i need camsaft for mechanical head :)
     

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