16v inlet manifolds

Discussion in '16-valve' started by dohc, Apr 24, 2004.

  1. HidRo Forum Member

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    flusted...did you get your car tuned up?cause if you change the intake mani,it will need a tune up...
    man,every single mani is in blue letters!its the vw colors!
     
  2. dohc Forum Member

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    so to recap; here's how we've concluded that an external id can be made of your 16v inlet manifold:

    oldest models - 41mm. has round bit cast into no1
    middling age(!) - 50mm. has narrowing bit past plugs
    youngest models - 42.5 does have round bit or narrowing

    did we decide anything about bets application of each? why did they revert to smaller ones?

    ..didnt expect it to be such a popular thread ;)
     
  3. GVK

    GVK Paid Member Paid Member

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    My small early manifold from an '87 doesn't have that round casting 'knob' on no.1 runner, thought that was just the corrado ones?
     
  4. DAVE 2227 Forum Junkie

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    My mk2 is from Switzerland so maybe it is different as they have stricter emission laws.
    But there again it doesn`t have a cat.
     
  5. MuffinMan New Member

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    The 50 mm was used only on early KR engined (139hp) non-cat models in Europe.
     
  6. flusted Forum Member

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    Didnt get it tuned but MY GOD Wot a difference.I have now been converted and will stand up for the 42mm item as my car pulls harder from 4k now instead of having to wait till 5k.
    I would say that due to the corrados weight,gear ratios and the fact i have 17s,42.5mm is best suited for this set up.
    I bet not many ppl changle from smaal to big back to small again to see the difference???
     
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    17`s killed my valver, you want to try a set if 15`s on it ;)
     
  8. prof Forum Addict

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    42 on a 2.0 50mm on a 1.8

    thats what you want
     
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    ;) :lol:
     
  10. prof Forum Addict

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    [:s] [:$] ??

    42 has the bigger plenam size best suited to the 2.0 in stock ish tune, the 50mm seems to work well on the 1.8 as my 158bhp seems to prove on a stock engine
     
  11. HidRo Forum Member

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    i would like to know why the 42 on the 2.0l!
    i really would!cause if you have a bigger engine,that will need more air,why restrict it!?
    but i changed from 42 to 50 in my KR,and man,what a diference after 4000RPM!!damn,it pulls [:D]
     
  12. prof Forum Addict

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    it's not just the diameter of the pipes that makes the difference, the boxy bit where the pipes meet, needs to be a certain size, and it turns out the 42mm one has the right size for a 2.0 engine at the rev ranges most people use, if you are revving to 10k revs then things might be different
     
  13. prof Forum Addict

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    cue TT or Golden to explain it properly
     
  14. jc.. Forum Member

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    If the 50mm has a constriction where the plug go in then surely it is all incidental.
    A pipe is only as wide as its narrowest point
     
  15. TheSecondComing Forum Addict

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    It's more complicated than that - you have pulse tuning etc. to think about.......... plus the fact that you have frictional losses all the way along a pipe, not just at it's narrowest point.....
     
  16. jc.. Forum Member

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    Way over my head! :lol:
     
  17. ianb Forum Member

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    A bigger inlet is definately more suited for a 16 valve engine.

    If you want really low down torque buy a Diesel !!

    There is very little difference in lbs of pull on a 2 litre valver with either 42 or 50mm inlets between 2-3k as my plots will show.
    You love a 16 valve for what it does....rev and the essence of tuning a 16V is to get more power in a linear fashion across the range but especially at the top where it becomes a delight on road and moreso on track.
    The 50mm is far better suited for top end punch when everything else comes into play ie head and cams.
    Where others die at 6K the 50mm will help maintain power all the way past 7K.......lovely just what a 16v is all about.

    Ian
     
  18. HidRo Forum Member

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    ian,post up the plots with the 42 and 50mm intake! [Y]
     
  19. GVK

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    Look on my website - *J485 GVK Tune up* page ;)
     
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    If that's to me, it just made me smile the way you put it. I wouldn't disagree, it was just the way you said it :)
     

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