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  1. benthejettaman Forum Member

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    6n2 hubs will go on 9n stub axles and vica versa if you but dont know if 6n hubs will have the magnetic ring like the 9n do
     
  2. foxyjay Forum Member

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    Cheers. Yer 9n rear hubs have active magnetic reluctor rings - but 6n2 have passive ferrous rings.

    9n are 5x100 but will get redrilled.

    On the fronts, I have found more evidence that the 2wire hall sensors are much smarter than given credit for and very unlikely that vr sensors can be made to work.

    I am pursuing the fitment of active reluctor rings to the mk2 cv joints.
    Watch this space....
     
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  3. foxyjay Forum Member

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    Have checked the 6n2 polo hubs that I have, dimensionally, against the specs for the 9n hubs and they are a spot on match.

    I have made contact with a reluctor ring seller who can supply the magnetic rings a-la 9n hubs as a separate item.

    I'm going to remove the passive trigger ring off these I have, and check out the physical dimensions of the hub neck - see if the 9n rings will fit without any machining etc.

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    I believe this is what i'll end up with:

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    Here is the magnetic ring.....

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  4. mercedeslimos Forum Member

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    That's being very creative! Makes me glad I didn't buy a MKV generation car
     
  5. sparrow Paid Member Paid Member

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    I have an old 6n2 hub you can have if needed. It's got a stripped hole for one of the wheel bolts.
     
  6. foxyjay Forum Member

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    Bagh! these reluctor rings are too big ID/OD.
    Let's see if I can get some 9N hubs......
     
  7. foxyjay Forum Member

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    Ordered a pair of 9N polo rear hubs......these will be 5x100 pcd.......can also found on 'rear disc brake' versions of VW Fox, Seat Ibiza, Cordoba, Audi A2.
    Can get drilled to make 4 or 5 x100 to open up wheel options......but i'd also need to get front hubs done too.

    Looking now at possibly swapping front hubs for Mk3 golf 5x100 flavour (a-la GTi / VR6).
    Anyone know if they will fit into stock Mk2 GTi knuckles / bearings without any mods?

    Have trawled my parts bins and now looking at options on front abs rings......got some spare Gti knuckles and CVs off a 16v.

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  8. mercedeslimos Forum Member

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    I used 16v/G60 front hubs with MK3 GTI/VR6 bearings and flanges with ABS rings dual drilled.
     
  9. foxyjay Forum Member

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    Cheers - what's the difference 16v/G60 knuckles over regular 8v versions?

    The ones in the above pics are 16v.......maybe it's the ABS readiness?
     
  10. mercedeslimos Forum Member

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    Apart from the ABS holes, the type above have bolt off carriers whereas 8v have them cast into them and thus not able to upgrade to bigger discs. I think the bearings could be bigger too.
     
  11. sparrow Paid Member Paid Member

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    8v to 16v are different. You can't fit the 16v 256/G60 280mm calipers to bv hubs

    Mk3 VR6 hubs have more caster, so better.

    You can press Mk3 5 stud flanges in to Mk2 hubs/bearings.
     
  12. foxyjay Forum Member

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    Slight confusion here....can you please clarify - bearing / hub (the bit that spins) - knuckle [bearing housing] (the bit that steers and houses said bearing/hub) ?

    I am 99% sure that 8v and 16v knuckles and bearings / hubs are same.

    Don't Mk3 VR6 Knuckles have to be fitted into widetrack lower wishbones (and matching steering track rods)?
     
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  13. mercedeslimos Forum Member

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    You use the hub flange ( that spins and the wheel bolts to ) from a Mk3 GTI or VR6 and bearings from the same, and the knuckles from MK2 16v or g60
     
  14. foxyjay Forum Member

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    Micrometer put to good use.....here's a dimensionally accurate CAD drawing I knocked up - showing section of the CV end, and the knuckle....a little license applied to the bits of the latter that aren't relevant.

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  15. sparrow Paid Member Paid Member

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    Hub = knuckle = bearing housing

    Bearing = bearing

    Flange is the bit with 4 or 5 holes in that spins and the wheel bolts to.

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    ETA: In your picture above, the flange is in the bearing which is in the knuckle/hub.

    I'm pretty sure 8v hubs for 239mm brakes are different to the 16v/256mm hubs, but I could be wrong
     
  16. foxyjay Forum Member

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    Cheers sparrow - semantics eh?!

    I dont think 8V GTi knuckles are different to 16V.

    I transplanted 16V brakes onto my 8V and there was nothing to give it away - nothing to change etc.

    The 256mm installation differences were just caliper carriers / calipers / discs.

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  17. Andy947 Forum Addict

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    239mm hubs have a non removable cast pad carrier. You need to swap to 16v hubs to go 256. They are not the same.
     
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  18. foxyjay Forum Member

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    Thinking about it - you're spot on. I believe my first set of 16v bits were bought separately - the second set were off the Ex-JBS Mk2 along with the Konis.

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  19. mercedeslimos Forum Member

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    Yep the 8v hubs are cast in carriers, though there are the caddy ones which are 239mm and bolt off carriers also good for it they share the same part number as the 16v ones. What's going on in the picture above?
     
  20. foxyjay Forum Member

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    Was my previous build-up with freshened up underpinnings and TSR engine installation, slip diff etc.

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