Custom Crank for more revs

Discussion in '16-valve' started by STEALTH K3, May 13, 2010.

  1. badger5

    badger5 Club GTI Sponsor and Supporter Trader

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2003
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    nr Glos
    piece of mind for me..
    600+bhp and 9000rpms makes me want to have tried my best during the build.. far to much invested to scrimp on balancing whilst its all in component form

    luck is a factor houston :thumbup:
     
  2. Mikey C Forum Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2003
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Out of interest Bill, did you have the out of balance measured before and after?

    If not, if you are going to get some stuff done, be good to know the figures?
     
  3. badger5

    badger5 Club GTI Sponsor and Supporter Trader

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2003
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    nr Glos
    i did'nt build the previous engine, elton did..
    this one i will know more and info like before and after would be of interest to me and something to ask them to note
    :thumbup:
     
  4. mr hillclimber Club GTI Supporter and Sponsor

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2005
    Likes Received:
    148
    Location:
    Southwest
    I will be indeed...

    300 quid for ballancing!?
     
  5. mr hillclimber Club GTI Supporter and Sponsor

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2005
    Likes Received:
    148
    Location:
    Southwest
    Indeed... on an engine like yours I'd do the same.... but us 8v atmo boys only have a 3rd of your power!:lol:

    Do you need to rev yours so high Bill... where's peak power?
     
  6. badger5

    badger5 Club GTI Sponsor and Supporter Trader

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2003
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    nr Glos
    peak power and still climbing was >8500rpm so I stopped it at 9k
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2010
  7. brutalmk2-16v Forum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Manchester
    Yep why not mate?
     
  8. mr hillclimber Club GTI Supporter and Sponsor

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2005
    Likes Received:
    148
    Location:
    Southwest
    Kin ell Bill.... well done!
     
  9. mr hillclimber Club GTI Supporter and Sponsor

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2005
    Likes Received:
    148
    Location:
    Southwest
    Wot to ballance crank/clutch/flywheel/front pulley, and pistons/rods?

    My machinist does the spinny bits for about 80 quid from memory, and around the same or less for the pistons/rods.... though custom steel rods dont normally need doing, nore do decent forged pistons.
     
  10. Brian.G

    Brian.G Forum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2008
    Likes Received:
    467
    Location:
    West of Ireland
    Do you think a factory forged crank is going to break below 10krpm? Or is it the imbalance effecting shell life/bearing loads your worried about?
     
  11. brutalmk2-16v Forum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Manchester
    I didn't know prices for balancing mate but when Bill said about 300 pounds i thought that was a fair amount if i spent 5k on my engine..?? It seemed fair.But now you are changing things :) who is your machinist? [:D]:lol:
     
  12. brutalmk2-16v Forum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Manchester
    To be honest i don't know Brian..Can you shed some light on this? explain a little further? Yes, is the imbalance thing that i'm worried about..[:s]
     
  13. badger5

    badger5 Club GTI Sponsor and Supporter Trader

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2003
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    nr Glos
    GT35R turbo remember.. and high flowing largeport head, full-race manifold, SEM intake with 80mm throttle etc etc
     
  14. mr hillclimber Club GTI Supporter and Sponsor

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2005
    Likes Received:
    148
    Location:
    Southwest
    Thats still fair play...:thumbup:
     
  15. mr hillclimber Club GTI Supporter and Sponsor

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2005
    Likes Received:
    148
    Location:
    Southwest
    He's an ex Hart engineer (as in Brian Hart.... Hart hillclimb engines, F1, Ford works rally engine builder in the 70's...) and his machining is... quite anal!:lol:

    I'll ask him next week.

    What sort of rpm is the engine making power at?
     
  16. brutalmk2-16v Forum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Manchester
    :lol: Cheers mr hillclimber.For now the engine revs in stock rev range with cut out at 7200rpms but i'm using mild camshafts so that i can get its power out with stock rev range.I want to balance my internals for 9k and go for much more aggressive camshafts like 296 so that i can get more power out of it.I can handle these durations due to my compression ratio :thumbup:
     
  17. mr hillclimber Club GTI Supporter and Sponsor

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2005
    Likes Received:
    148
    Location:
    Southwest
    And the c.r is.....

    If your only going to turn 9k tops, save your cash and run the std crank. You wont need to run past those revs with those cams anyway.
     
  18. brutalmk2-16v Forum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Manchester
    13.5:1

    You talked to your man and said that? to keep the standard crank and without balancing anything?

    cheers
     
  19. Brookster

    Brookster Paid Member Paid Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2004
    Likes Received:
    150
    Location:
    M1 J40
    Hope this info is of use to you in your selection

    here

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    ABF Crank Standard 92.8mm stroke
    [​IMG]

    1Y Crank Standard 95.5mm stroke
    [​IMG]

    ABF Eurospec Billet Race Crank 92.8mm stroke
    [​IMG]

    All weights are in KG's
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2010
  20. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2003
    Likes Received:
    448
    Also, inspired by the link above, a little more info in this thread here
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice