Interesting stuff: the lap time improvement of the R32 over the 4motion is way *under* proportional to the power to weight ratio difference. I guess it shows that the track is biased towards cornering speed rather than acceleration... I wonder how close a 4motion with R32 spec suspension and rims would come
Never driven a standard R32 or a 4 motion. but my R32 engined 4 motion seems pretty damn rapid to me! then again, it has schrick cams and an AMD remap spo it'll be knocking on for 280bhp. those cams make all the difference. it feels a lot quicker than the corrado ever did with the same engine (albeit with stock cams) in it. agree with what peopl say about the "feel" of speed though. the more of a ooligan element a car has the more exciting it will seem to be to drive, thus feel quicker.
hmm reading the above has made me think....I wonder how a R32 would compare to a MK2 Golf Limited ? ?
Guys, could you please ladle on a bit more criticism onto the R32, then I won't keep wanting another one! I thought the handling was very good and took great pleasure in doing daft stuff on the twisties and big roundabouts. The car felt very planted and secure and no crosswind could ever unsettle a near 1500kg car. I do actually make similar progress in my Astra (with the same torque as the R more or less) but I get orque steer (none in the R) and a lot more understeer. I also get 40mpg which is handy.
I had a go in my friends subaru wrx. It didn't feel as rapid as i thought, but you looked at the speedo and thought otherwise. Its just more solid. In perspective my mk2 is slower but it rattles more, is more noisy and gives a sensation of speed for those reasons. Obviously your mk2 is quicker but the feeling of speed will be much greater and make the r32 feel really slow
How fast does your diesel go Jeff? 0-60 in under 8.6s and over 129mph?! I get 50mpg if I drive like a total gay.
my diesel is about as fast as a slug thats having a bad day. But I didnt buy it to go fast, if I did diesel wouldnt have been what I was searching for. It has one speed - "driving miss daisy"
It cant be that bad. My diesel is nippy in a city environment. Plus its fast enough to cruise along with the rest of the traffic on the motorway. Also accelerating between 50-70mph is pretty rapid. Mmmm ... torque. No, its nowhere near as quick as my 16v ... but damn its a hell of a lot cheaper.
Den you're right but if I'd said all that sutherlandm would've been off again trying to convince us how great his car is I prefer a quiet life.
It's "get at sutherlandm" day again. Not had one of those for a while. Diesels are boring, noisy, stinky and have the most stupid lack of rev range ever. However, some are quite quick AND economical these days.
But I dont care ! It gets me from A - B. Its reliable. Its cheap. It uses bugger all fuel. Noise ... I`m inside ... its quiet, so I dont care. Stinky ... not mine, it doesnt smell at all unless you stick your face next to the exhaust. Lack of rev range ... so, its got plenty of torque for motorway cruising. Economy ... mine is incredibly economical.
Superden - What have you got? I can't remember. Agree with your comments too but just trying to underline the fact that I do NOT think my car is anywhere near the greatest but after 6.5k miles I'm actually getting very fond of it. Solid interior (no rattles or squeaks unlike the Golf at the same mileage), solid thunking of doors/boot, stupidly practical, pleny of oomph for safe overtaking, good brakes, tidy handling, NO pretensions, looks nice (to me and a few strangers who have asked about it). A bit like a reliable dog that although not a pedigree, just works well.
If you said to me 12 months ago that I`d be happy driving an old diesel I would have ... disagreed Now I`m more than happy using it as a daily driver And newer diesel engines certainly get my vote
Same here! How times (and engines) change. Still miss the smell of petrol (which I like), the sound of a nice petrol motor and a 7k rpm rev limit but for day to day driving, a decent turbo diesel gets my vote
