Mk2 8v block with abf 16v head stalling problem

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  1. Ross-k New Member

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    I'll try somewhere else. It's just pictures of the block and inlet
     
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    The hose connects near ICV/ISV on mine... *shrugs*

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    The only vacuum noises you should hear are from the ISV.

    My ECU vac connects to the vacuum line from the branch, right rear of the intake manifold.

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    I can see a hose at the front of your manifold, but cant see where it goes.
     
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    I think the manifold that blis has and mime as slightly different. I have a thin hose after the throttle body whereas you don't? Maybe different years?

    What hose do you mean? The big one that goes by the dip stick?
     
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    If you look closely, I have two hoses on the manifold near the throttle body of the manifold, the thin one leads under the manifold to a nipple near the ISV valve, that's what connects to the missing hose on yours.
     
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    I'll have a look on mine later today, what side of the isv is the nipple on?

    Any ideas what the hose on top of the manifold does? It's the one after the throttle body
     
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    I think the other bigger hose is charcoal and emission, I could be wrong. Regardless, you need to block that nipple off if it's not used or it will leak air and vacuum.

    Hose highlighted red.
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    This is where mine attaches.
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  10. Ross-k New Member

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    Big one an egr?

    If I could post a picture it would be easier but there's the two hoses on top of the throttle body then just behind that there's one coming straight out of the manifold. Any idea what that could be?
     
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    Aaah, I see, that nipple I don't have. It may be direct to ECU or MFA not sure. My ECU is branched after the Brake Servo vac connections along with the MFA and AC
     
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    I'll see if I can try and trace that one as well later then
     
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    I also noticed a broken wire on the loom to the Crank sensor, looks blue/red.
     
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    I can't see any broken wires? Can you circle it if possible?
     
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    Bottom right
     
  16. Ross-k New Member

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    Aww yeah so it is. I'll definitely be looking into that then! Surely that would stop the spark if it was the crank sensor?
     
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    Not too sure either. There is an awesome FUSEBOX FAQ in the 16V thread, with colours :)

    The CPS wires seem to be in place.
     
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    I'll have a look around and get back to you then. Cheers
     
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    I've had a good look about and found:

    The tube that comes from the top of the head goes straight to the ECU but has been taped to another tube so it'll probably need replaced.

    The wire that was circled and looked broken actually just bends round and goes into the wire tidy that joins the one the wire came from.

    There is a pipe between the isv to the thing next to it instead of to the throttle body
     
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    on the later abf manifolds the ecu vacuum goes to a nipple on the back next to the throttle body, the earlier ones it goes to one of the nipples on the brake servo hose, either is fine. I'd recommend you run the ecu vac line direct rather than T off, and mkae sure the hose is in good nick. The MFA vac line should go to one of the nipples on the brake servo hose

    I can see your FPR vac nipple is hooked up fine, no worries there. theres another vac line one on the side of the inlet half way between the injectors and the throttle body which feeds the FPR on the fuel rail, yours looks a bit knackered so it wants replacing.

    both the nipples on the throttle body are for the carbon canister system, for UK MK2 you can just cap these off and bin the CC as we dont require it for the MOT so be sure to block up that extra nipple on your TB.

    does the isv vibrate/buzz with the ignition on? if not check fuse 15. you'll also wanty to look at the wirign behind the inlet to make sure there are no splits, also make sure you have the correct plug on the idle switch. the one with the black and brown wire is for the breather heater and can be cut out since we didnt get those in the uk. this one is also tapped to the ignition feed for the isv and so if the wiring goes bad it'll short out and pop the isv fuse.
     

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