Rear beam triangulation. Whats the reason ?

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  1. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    daved the beam axles on minis raised the roll centre up about 12" at the back, might have made them feel a bit more like the anglias etc that people were more used to driving
     
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    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

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    Your're catching on quick these days prof!:o

    Only taken you 9 months to reply!!!!:lol:

    Thanks for the info. makes sense to get rid on the understeer!:thumbup:
     
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    Does anybody know exacly what parts are required to make the above setup? sizes of rose joints , bolts , thickness of material , suppliers etc.


    Regards
     
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    only spotted this yesterday [:$]

    However I don't remember mk1 fiestas being especially good, they used a beam axle out back,

    Staniforth gives beam axles a bit of a abuse in his suspension book, but there's plenty of very fast machinery that use them to good effect
     
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    Dave *Very Smart* Pedantic Old Fart Paid Member

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    Lotus Engineering recon. that the best handling front wheel drive production car ever is the **** 99![:*:]

    TRUE!
     
  8. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    Linked from BergCupCar's build :thumbup:

     
  9. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    mk1. has just turned up the very thread I was thinking of when I wrote this last year, on the Kamei thread:

    http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?1231595

    Note 9.5" slicks :o The Kamei was sat on 8.5" IIRC.

    How do they get heat into these [:s]
     
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    Higher ambient temperatures out there perhaps?
    Or old skool Carlos Fandango tyres. Modern tyres have come on leaps and bounds from the mid 80s so no need to go so wide on the tread these days?
     
  11. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    Notes from the Kamei history, 2003, relevant to the Vortex thread?.

    Fronts set to 18 psi, rears 16psi @ start. 23/22 & 19/18 after qualifying.

    These were 20.0 8.0 13.0 baggy Goodyears, oversized for the rims in appearance.
     
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    Used to rallycross a mk1 in the early 90's. The first corner was all oversteer in the fwd cars due to cold 8" avons. Nobody worried about it. You expected the back end to go to 30 degrees. Just kept it planted.
    The scrub got enough heat in to start them working. Triangulation? My vote is not necessary, although I am following this discussion with interest.
     
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    SCCH/Cavedoni Mk I Rear Beam Toe Stabilizer kit:
    http://scch-heads.com/viewpart.php?id=43

    Hmmm i wonder who that is mentioned? ^ ^ ^ ;) [:D]
     
  14. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    Just to avoid confusing folks who are reading this thread only, as it involves a little lateral working out, the supplier is clearly referencing Tony Angioletti, who fitted his own kit to the Kamei Golf.

    More here & subsequent pages.
     
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    Ex-works shell being used on Eifel Rally Festival today (not to be confused with the car in the Museum):

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    Note: homologated axle mods (extension of OEM corner-brace triangulation), plus triangulation bars.

    Also, on a side-note, the 'skidded' wishbone undersides.

    It'll live again :thumbup:
     
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    Ouch ... both OK I hope.
     

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