Rocker Breather.... is this OK?

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  1. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    The o'ring is there to supply coolant to the carb & inlet, ripping off the 2e2 doesn't prove there was nothing wrong with the o'ring ;)
     
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    but now, to my knowledge, there is nothin to suggest that it needs replacing...:S


    what would u do?
     
  3. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Well there would be no point replacing it now becuase you don't have a pierburg carb any more, my point is that might be why the old carb wasn't working. I would have replaced the o'ring before buying a webber carb, its certainly alot cheaper than 200 ;)

    Not that its a waste of money, it gives you more tunability so you can get the best out any engine mods you perform from now on. Top of your list should be a GTI cam & exhaust :thumbup:
     
  4. DarkMK2 Forum Member

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    already thought about that rubjonny!! wont be for a while yet... so much to save for... so little time to save the money!!


    and about the O ring..... couldn't be fuked tbh! seemed a right ass hole of a job!
     
  5. Crispy 8V CGTI Committee - Club Secretary Admin

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    weber carb :clap: nice one I'm sure it drives so much better!
    i'd also go with a piper brether filter mount as high as possible with out bends so all oil can drain back down

    & yes you have hydraulic tappets ;)
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  6. t_r_d Forum Member

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    oil will be coming up through the pipe due to high oil pressure due to
    restricted galleries in the block. use a decent engine flush/ flushing
    oil to remove some of this crap.



    you can diconnect the tube to the airbox with no worry of the car
    running badly, the connection to the airbox is before the filter
    meaning no unfiltered air will be allowed into the engine.



    the only reason this oil breather tube is for emissions purposes, as
    all emissions from the car have to be vented through the exhaust.
    technically the car would fail an emissions test if a remote breather
    was fitted and emissions were deemed to be harmful!!!!



    if your car takes ages to come off chocke(pierberg) this would be an
    indication that the rubber o ring had swollen/blocked up in the joint
    of the inlet to head as this woul restrict the flow meaning the water
    running through the choke mechanism wouldnt be hot even if the engine
    was!



    as for fitting a mk3 golf rocker cover, they are a straight swap but
    remember that your current cambelt cover wont attatch to it.



    the result is this:



    [​IMG]
     
  7. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    The breather connection to the airbox is after the filter on 1.6/1.8 carbed engine so will definitely need to be blanked off.

    If it wasn't you would have to spend a lot more on new filters as all the oily crap thrown out of the engine would soon coat the filter ;)

    As an additional note, I found that my breather threw alot more oil into the air box when the rubber pipe had a kink in it, I fitted a new piece and it seemed to be better.
    Well actually it actually was a cut down heater matrix coolant return feed pipe from a MK3, but it did the job :lol:
     
  8. DarkMK2 Forum Member

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    ahhh yes cheers rubjonny, i was getting confused there when reading trd's post. But what you were saying about therestricted galleries mate, i've thought about flushing the engine and was thinking about using the old steam cleaning technique, by using a vacumm to suck some water into the inlet to steam clean all that gunky s**t. Have any of you guys tried this? do u know if its just as effective as using the proper engine flush?


    Does anyone know where i can get hold of...


    A) A Piper filter for the breather?


    B) Some sort of bung to block the breather inlet to the airbox?


    and what effect, if any, would this mod have on the running of the enigine?


    Cheers[:D]
     
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    Restrictions in the galleries/filter etc might cause high oil pressure
    in certain areas but it will not blow out of the breathers as a result,
    oil pumps have a pressure relief valve. However if a breather blocks up
    then it might cause pressure in the crancase and breach a seal that way
    but fairly uncommon. The breathers only vent crankcase pressure due to
    blowby of the rings and stems etc.



    I fancy a polished rocker cover now, I had one but I threw it away
    without thinking, was trying to keep mine looking stock... idiot [:[]
     
  10. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    When I first got my driver it was well dirty, I used a whole can of carb cleaner on the carb & sprayed down the choke barrel. You should have seen all the black cr@p that came out the exhaust!

    You can pour water slowly down the choke which will achive the same thing, I put half a pint through mine but didn't get much crap out because the carb cleaner had cleared out most of it already. You only need to use a vacuum pipe to suck water in on injection/diesel engines as you can't realy get to the inlet to pour anything in.

    When I took the head off later due to a sheared exhaust stud it was in tip top condition internally too [:D]
     
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    Anyone got any suggestions for what to blank off the airbox with?
     
  12. DarkMK2 Forum Member

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    ^DITO^


    [:D]
     
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    A short piece of the original hose, a bolt in the end, and a jubilee clip?

    Or bung it up with fibreglass, if you want it to be permanent.

    DarkMk2 - good to see you got it running...the Weber is less sensitive to temperature with a manual choke, than the auto-choke pierburg (as TRD suggested) so if it's only partially blocked (and they're ALL partially blocked) then you could be ok for a bit. It's a pain in the ar5e to change, so don't do it unless you've got the inlet manifold off for another reason (e.g. a go-faster head swap) or you start getting running problems again.
     
  14. chopperoli Forum Member

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    to blank mine off i just pulled the tube off at the rocker cover, and put a spark plug in the tube! perfect fit! but its best to have the pipe attached like normal, ive put mine back. its best for emissions. save theplanet man...:p
     
  15. DarkMK2 Forum Member

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    right ok then chaps... thanks for all your input!:clap:


    ill get round to doin the breather thing then... whenever i can be bothered to get my ar5e in gear!


    oh yeh.... WEBER'S ROCK!!![:D]
     

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