ABF 16v engine + ZXR750 bike carbs into mk2 1.6 driver

what 1.8 or 2 litre 16v engine (running on bike carbs) and gearbox will drop into a mk2 1.6 driver with no mods to mounts and will run mainly off the driver loom?

 

None really. With any conversion you need the whole engine loom.

Only things which can stay is your headlight loom, waher bottle motor loom, ect...

I had to change the whole engine loom on my 1.8 Driver when i put the 1.8 GTi 8v engine in...

 

yeah thought so
regretting the sale of my KR engine and full loom now...
..now I have the space

 

To run on bike carbs all you need is the spark controller loom, which is practically f*ck all, and any trasverse 16v will fit in with no change to the mounts - KR, ABF, 9a or you can get a 6a or ACE and you just need to swap the brackets on the engine to 1.8 Golf ones

 

ok so would just need the 16v ign controller loom and use the rest of the driver loom for everything else?

 

That's exactly what we're saying, yes.

 

easiest seems to be an already mated abf block and head and gbox,

would I use the shafts that came with the abf and use mk2 16v hubs etc?

 

What year and engine size is your driver? It may have the larger 100mm inner cv joints on the driveshafts already. The mk3 drivershafts are longer than the mk2 ones and have a different outer cv joint too so not usable unless going to widetrack and 5 stud.
The ABF engine is normally fitted to an 02A cable change box and this would require the gear selector cables and stick, as well as the hydro clutch conversion. A fair old bit of work.
You could just fit your 020 gearbox to the ABF engine by changing the flywheel and clutch.
A GTI 020 box would give shorter sportier gear ratios than the std carb / driver box, and if your current shafts are 100mm, they would mate to the gti box ok.

As you are going bike carbs this simplifies the wiring a lot as mentioned previously.
I have a 16v ignition loom and ecu here if you decide to go ahead with this.

 

It's an '89, 1600. I think it is a 4+e too, unsure if that is different to a driver which inner joints/shafts do I have?


Basically I want to keep this as simple as possible so no cable 'box, no hydraulic clutch etc.

So I should use 020 from a GTI from a Mk3 GTI 8v?

And use which clutch and fly?

 

You will probabley have to get GTI 100mm driveshafts & cv joints, my 91 driver only has 90mm driveshafts. It is possible to swap the output flanges on the GTI 020 for the ones from your driver so you could keep runing the driver shafts & CV's, not sure how good an idea that is though!

I wolud use the GTI flywheel and clutch as they are bigger, again you could use the driver clutch & flywheel but im not sure how it would cope with the extra power.

Hope that helps

 

Okay cool, think I'm understanding!

I know it isn't ideal and it will struggle to cope but in the meantime whilst I sort which box I want to use I could just whack on the old carby box and shafts? EDIT and clutch, fly etc.. also.......... EDIT is the 1.6 carby box AWY code?

and then use say an 020 or a 2y etc...

The only reason I'm askin this is that it needs to the quickest out and in job as possible as I'm using garage space in the house I'm staying in at the mo!

 

Yeah sorry I wrote that wrong, 020 is the casing isn't it and the 2y just refers to the mk2 16v internals!?

Will probably be best and easiest overall to just have the GTI box clutch and fly already to bolt on to the ABF when I pick it up and drop it all in together then?

 

The early mk1 gearbox does not have the provision for mounting the mk2 gearbox mount to the box. ie the 3 long 8mm bolts that go through the diff housing.
TBH any mk2 GTI 020 box will be best suited as it has decent ratios and will have the larger 100mm output flanges which you should really be using with the increase in power that the new engine will have.
Got a pair of mk2 GTI shafts in the shed too if you go this way.

 

best to find a rear ended written of GTI then. or breaker with full running gear.
Would the mk3 gti 8v be better?

 

cool, also on the shopping list are the carbs, I know they'll need rejetting but what's the best combo for the ABF?
Also would it better getting newer or older carbs?