Best Mods on ABF 16v???

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  1. damogti Forum Junkie

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    Just a couple of questions......

    What are the best mods to do on this engine??

    What sort of power is achievable???

    Is is costly trying to get more power from this engine??

    Cheers :)
     
  2. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

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    Expect in the regions of 180-190bhp pretty easily.

    Want more than 200... get your credit card out.

    I would say just throw it in standard on K-Jet and take it to vince. Should see a healthy 160+ from that alone.

    Get a ported head on and 175+ Should be pretty easy.
     
  3. damogti Forum Junkie

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    Its gone in a 8v Digi with the digifant injection.... is that gonna limit what im gonna get out of it??
     
  4. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

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    No - but it will cost you more.

    Only last week we saw very very good figures from an ABF on Digi - but it means an expensive re-map (about 400) every time you alter something.
     
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    :(

    so i'd be better to go fora flowed head etc and get all the work done and remap last of all then??

    Are there any gains to be had with changing the cams??
     
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    I wouldn't personally - but others will say you should.
     
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    what cams or do all mods first and remap last?
     
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    Remap last. What cams? What sort of car do you want?
     
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    fast and good alrounder i.e. want a bit of top end speed and loads for lowdown power for traffic light GP. That make sense??
     
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    If you look at EssThree/Glen's engine then a Schrick 268in looks useful but so do plots with a pair of 260s, or some people swear by 268in 276ex. Pick the cams carefully with the other mods you do. You're not going to gain much if anything right at the bottom of thr rev range.
     
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    268/276 Schricks....

    IanB runs them...my new car has them (produces max power @ 6800 :) ) & I believe Badger Bills old Jetta did too...

    "Everything" else needs to be done engine wise to make them work though IMO...

    Flowed head/ 4 branch, flowed inlet, exhaust, filter, Vernier etc etc....along with some proper RR time..

    They would seem to be the ultimate set up on a 2L 16v given IanBs 200+BHP/160lbs/ft achievement. (K-Jet)

    My only concern would be making them work well using the digi management. Not sure how well the digi setup responds to aggressive cams...but Ians car proves it can be done on K-Jet :)
     
  12. GVK

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    Sean from Cupra.net tried all sorts of Schrick combos with his 2.0 16v Ibiza and ended up with 260s, the Digi EMS doesn't like lairy cams, emissions go through the roof.

    EssThree's car only has the 268 inlet cam and standard ex cam, passes the MOT emission test and on his particular car, gives good power.

    I've tried 268/276 on my car, just didn't do what I wanted, at all. [xx(]

    Damo look for vicks post for his stealth resaults 183bhp/150++ lb/ft from an ABF on digi with exhaust and filter, remapped at Stealth
    Edited by: G_V_K
     
  13. rocco2litre

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    supersprint manifold, custom airbox...159bhp from abf
    chip and exhaust next.
     
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    I think standard cams will suit you best Damo.

    Chris - Bills Jtta ran some custom CAT cams IIRC. Not 268/276's.
     
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    I'm running an ABF with a diesel crank, flowed head lightened balanced/knifedged crank with standard cams. Got 178.5bhp without a setup and was pinking like a pinking thing on heat. Looking at around 190+ with a proper set up on K-jet.
    Good power is easily achivable without spending an absolute fortune, and without making the car a rev monster to get the power out.
     
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    What's it like with the standard cams back in it now Mart?

    Damo - we need pics! :)
     
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    mine (engine, not car) has been RR'd at 164bhp and is completely standard...

    so a custom airbox and supersprint manifold will loose 5bhp? sounds like a bargain to me [:[]
     
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    Mine with an induction kit and exhaust put out 171 bhp. With a chip, 183 bhp and 160+ lbft.

    I find the motronic system works great. If you plan to mod your forever, go for a stand alone set up. I found out at Stealth that on ABF digi you can't alter fuelling, only ignition timing, if thats any useful.

    :)
     
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    The standard KR's feel better throughout the range, but loses it at the top end, at about 6k when it really drops off.
    The Schricks pulled like mothers past 4 1/2k but i felt they lost out lower down which is where I want it for everyday driving.

    With that in mind though I've just bought a mk1, which will NOT be for everyday driving so i may build another engine with a bit(but not alot) more cash spent on it and get it well over 200bhp from a N/A 16v.
    Its important to spend the cash wisely on things that matter. ARP bolts are a must, as well as good lighteneing and balancing to achieve power from the higher end while retaining reliability.
     
  20. GVK

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    Crane 260/270 splits [:-B]

    Bill did run 268/276s but they're now in IanB's car I think you'll find. :)
     

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