I can't remember which magazine it was in (might have been practical performance car) but they did a tyre test supplement about a month ago with toyo R888 and yoko's and a few other legal slicks and they were tested on a mk2 golf and a westfield or caterham and from what I remember a tyre called the silverstone R came out best. I'm sure they said that the golf was running in the mk2 series. Here's a bit of someone elses thread who must have bought that issue. "There was a track tyre test supplement with Mays issue of PPC magazine where they tested a load of track tyres (Toyo R888, Yoko A048, Dunlop D036, Kumho V700, BF Goodrich G Force Profiler, Silverstone RR). Tests were carried out at Donnington with two different track cars (factory Westfield and Mk2 Golf Gti) and performed by two championship winning race drivers. The results were a bit divided but... 6th place - BF Goodrich (it's really a road tyre but stood up well to track work, good for beginners) 4&5th place - joint places for Kumho V700 and Dunlop D036 Top 3 places were close call between them... 3rd place - Yoko A048 (good but a soft compound, provides same grip as the top two but the top two were intermediate compound so will last longer. Also the Yokos are more expensive than the top two.) 2nd place - Toyo R888 1st place - Silverstone RR (not much between the Toyo R888 and the Silverstone, both drivers agreed the Silverstone was better but when price is taken into account the Toyo can usually be found for a cheaper price.)
Just found this on Pistonheads as I was sure I remembered seeing this tyre test supplement somewhere. I'm pretty sure that the Golf they used was from the Mk2 race series "There was a track tyre test supplement with Mays issue of PPC magazine where they tested a load of track tyres (Toyo R888, Yoko A048, Dunlop D036, Kumho V700, BF Goodrich G Force Profiler, Silverstone RR). Tests were carried out at Donnington with two different track cars (factory Westfield and Mk2 Golf Gti) and performed by two championship winning race drivers. The results were a bit divided but... 6th place - BF Goodrich (it's really a road tyre but stood up well to track work, good for beginners) 4&5th place - joint places for Kumho V700 and Dunlop D036 Top 3 places were close call between them... 3rd place - Yoko A048 (good but a soft compound, provides same grip as the top two but the top two were intermediate compound so will last longer. Also the Yokos are more expensive than the top two.) 2nd place - Toyo R888 1st place - Silverstone RR (not much between the Toyo R888 and the Silverstone, both drivers agreed the Silverstone was better but when price is taken into account the Toyo can usually be found for a cheaper price.)"
fyi ... 195/55 x 15 (7" rim) DO1J - 185/60 x 14 (6" rim) AO32R AO32R in 15" only available as 205/50 IIRC On the road the DO1J are fairly quiet, the AO32R are not .... both cope with wet conditions OK as long as you`re sensible
anymore thoughts on tyres boys? very tempted to call up and get a set of these dunlop's at 55 a tyre. camskill only list them as a 195/55/15 though and 136 a pop. :O anyone heard anything about the hankook trackday tyres? HANKOOK R S2 Z212
I'll be rebelious and say I really don't like my R888's.. I'm running 185/60R14's on my mk1 and I'm not impressed. I bought them when they were cheap, but I'll revert back to Avons or Dunlops soon and sod the cost.. I didn't put all this time into building this car to compromise it with cheap tyres...
Update on Silverstone RR`s Just spoken with James at ServiceandSport - 01704 898940 Details: - Road legal - Motorsport construction (a la touring car), stiffer sidewalls etc - Choice of four compounds including a `wet` Prices: 185/55 x 14 - 85 + VAT retail - 80 + VAT to ClubGTI 195/50 x 15 - 95 + VAT retail - 90 + VAT to ClubGTI Collection from Lancashire base available Delivery via TNT 30 + VAT for four tyres HTH`s
Unless I've been blinded, I thought the 888s pretty much had the road-legal market locked up. It looks like there's a few others creeping in though, but they've all got to undercut each other - and be just as good... FWIW, the Reeves Mk2 was out on 888s a week or so ago, and they were raving about them being not far off a slick. I was expecting to be asked to use them up after they'd failed the test, but no such luck!!
There are more than one compound of 888 though I have heard - anyone know details ? There's lotus elise's running on 888s in mod prod when they could use slicks and the feedback is just that - not far off a slick performance not as fast on my car though - tested em back to back with avon slicks at Aintree a few weeks back and at least 1 sec slower over around 53 secs. But my suspension is probably not got enough camber on for 888s running quite upright for crosspilies - so not optimum for their use - so it could be quite close......
I used slicks in an all comers race at Snetterton last year then switched to the Toyo's for our race. The Slicks did 1:24.99 and the Toyo's did 1:26.65. I think the Dunlop D01J's are the best road tyre for the dry, they have a much stiffer carcass, but the Toyo is much better in the wet....so is a better all rounder....and cheaper.
Thanks Mickey, Reason being - I`m interested in the suspension vs tyre carcass design aspect now that I`ve changed my own suspension.
http://www.toyo.co.uk/releasedetail.php?id=88&identity=latest_news march this year press release from Toyo That explains it - Gary Thomas is one of the Elises I was referring to - very quick driver and car and a very good recommendation if he's using them My time of about a second slower than slicks was comparing my 'medium / GG' tyres so I bet the SG's rock big time, and would allow all weather running as my GG's were ace in the wet so softer should be better still