Ban from the forum

Please tell me how people using the forum without helping to pay for it's existence contributes to it's running.



and for you other question..
I don't see "the scene" going anywhere - because i am more concerned in trying to do my job on this forum which is to help run it in the way that CGTI wants it to be run.

When i first bought a Mk1 i found this forum to be a helpful and friendly source of a large amount of information. I have saved a fortune with the advice and contacts i made here.

So now i am trying to put something back into the forum, and try and keep it a useful tool for VW owners. I spent several months not owning a VW, and i am selling my only VW at the moment, but i still want the forum to exist because i want to see others get the help i have.

One last thing; i've already stated the ways that concerns about the running of the forum should be expressed, why is it that forum users feel that the rules don't apply to them?

 

By posting. Isn't that a contribution in itself. If they were not posting and merely lurking then, going on (posting) about how it should and should not be be run, i could see your point of view. but 'we' are posting, and 'we' are contributing, so your point holds no validation..

thats all very well. Can 'we' be enlightented as to the intention of this forum/website's direction/way to be run, as a reference for any future posts that are, whether it be VW related or dare i say 'general' chat related, posted.

which user's? what rules? its already been discussed on here (general chat) and in many related threads/forums about the inconsistency of mods decisions. Why should we as users have to resort to PM's??? imo that make such matters, personal. in this way, it isnt private, people who have enough balls to respond and contribute about disscusions should be taken note of, and be heard. Or should that be stopped too.


Oops, ave i gone to far??


Edited by: Jsem

 

These are my own opinions not those of the club.

The FINANCIAL cost of running the forum is not contributed to by non club members. I know it has been suggested that there could be a nominal charge/donation scheme setup but at the moment that hasn't even been agreed on let alone implementet.

Information wise, well yeah there are some very knowledgable non members who give great advice and encouragement and I for one wouldn't want to see them go. But there are also a number of forum members that post mainly in the general chat area and as such don't contribute to the overall knowledge base of the site.

"The Scene" != "ClubGTI". ClubGTI is merely a part of it.

Even if the forum did go members only non members would still be able to read it. And I would hope there would be some areas open for them to ask questions, chat etc and having a 'forum membership' fee as stated above would then give them access to the whole site. this would help offset the cost of running the site which hopefully will be redeveloped into a good source of information with FAQ's, how to's and useful info. Simple things that keep cropping up like paint codes, option codes, VIN decoders, gearbox ratios, engine specs, maybe even a common part number database. . Maybe the 'forum membership' should be a site access cost that would allow non club members access to the forum and this centre of information.

<sorry went rambling on there>

The scene like most is fragmented. This club is fragmented too. Everyone has their idea as to how things should be run/policed/managed.

Where is it going? Who knows. As the cars become cheaper to buy the more younger people will buy them. Many of them will want to add neons, big wings etc to them. Are they less worthy of joining the 'scene' than someone with a slightly modified Oak Green 16v Golf?

Come to think of it...what actually is 'the scene'? People who like VW cars? People who like any VAG group car? People who only like the infamous Oak green Golf and who attend shows?

I shall take the scene to mean anyone that likes any watercooled VAG group car. That way I cover all the specialised groups/clubs/meets etc.


In a utopian ClubGTI world this club/site would be the centre of the 'scene'. Everyone would live in harmony, the club would meet the needs of all enthusiasts whether they were members or not. Unfortunatly the real world gets in the way of this. this club/site is one of a number. If you choose to pay and be a member then that's great. If you don't then that's your choice. But whether you pay or not you use the forum under the rules laid out. It is the same for all forums you use, we are no diferent.

The site/forum is perhaps the biggest public face that a lot of clubs have. If it is being run unfairly then it gives a negative impression. Some people would like the forum to be 'technical talk' only, some a mixture of chit chat and technical stuff. The chit chat reinforces the community spitit but there have to be 'laws' laid down as in any walk of life.

I'll quote form another forum I use:

Sounds pretty harsh but that's the basis 'all' forums work under. I guess it's how the rules are implemented/enforced and if the enforcement is fair and consistent.



<I've lost track of where I was going with this now maybe I'll pick it up in the morning.>

 

So why should that matter. This after all is not a tecnical website geared towards petrolheads. imo that would make it very boring.

its a place for like-minded VW heads to chat, talk bolllocks and banter. If you cant see it for that then general shouldn't even exist. makes it boring, more 'scene' orientated.

And again, pay up or get lost. Sign up or we aint interested. Think of it this way, if you were slighty interested in (for arguments sakes) abi flangmuss, but you could only access pics of her by signing upto a website that may or may not send you an access code within 24hours, what you gonna do?? More than likely lose interest and move on...

 

isnt there more technical sections than just the one general section!........?

 

Absolutely.

Whats your point though?

 

well, basically, given theres a lot more technical sections than gen chitchat sections..........maybe this IS a technical website aimed at petrolheads...??
Edited by: Seraph

 

Jsem - you give the impression that you are just looking for an argument and not actually wanting to change anything.


Feel free to prove me wrong with your constructive ideas as to how you think the forum should best be run.

 

I only going to make this comment once,

be upfront.

We as users, want to be able to trust moderators/admins judgment, and to achieve this all we (I do anyway) ask for is transparency in decision making. If a post is removed, then have to the courtesy to PM the thread starter so in future the same mistake doesn't happen again. The same goes for bannings. If people are asking, then you should be able to justify yourselves as to why that decision was made, because after all m/a's are trying to be impartial and if it doesn't, it will stink of a personal attack. And there is no need for that here or anywhere else.


im not going to reply any further to this topic. I was angry last night, so apologies to anyone who got offended or if you felt i was being personal.


J.

 

Completely agree with what Jsem just said, I belive that is the reason people are getting fed up, because no-one is explaining their decisions and actions.

 

exactly,

 

Well I for one think its a damn good idea having Chris H as a general moderator, pretty sound bloke, level headed doesnt have a HUGE ego and will moderate with fairness, as do most of the other moderators, considering they are all volunteers I think they do a pretty good job.

Damn difficult to decide what may or may not offend, lots of different people with different styles and levels of taste and whats funny to one person may be offensive to another cant please all of the people all of the time!!! Tho sometimes to mods can take deletions a bit too far! But hey this is juts a forum, in the greater makeup of things its not THAT important in your life, get out a bit more and go to some of the shows

 

Agree with what Jsem said - most sensible , straight forward, non argumentative thing said throughout this thread.

A PM/Explination dosent take 2 seconds.

 

If search engines know there's swearing or poern on a your site, you'll be off, or rated differently so you get no/less hits.

 

you type porn on google and see the results

 

Pull your tongue out of his bottom Jo.

 

Proving the guilt of others is not evidence of your own innocence!

 

Oh FFS grow up How childish is that comment
Edited by: daiseyfleur

 

There's a whole wide world out there, people.