Car weights!!

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  1. POL

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    pretty good weight with the rocco iain. at least with the lead you can get it low down and in the correct area.

    good result steved, you should do a race report in motorsport section. what championship you running in?

    i think a big chunk of weight can be shaved with wheels. i had some 13" alleycats on the car for weighting. also had my mates 15" compo's on it for moving it about etc. there is a big difference in wheel weights. one which i think is over looked in most instances. will try to get scales out and weigh up the combonations as examples.

    still tempted to get out the holesaw tonight and do the inner 3/4 panels before it go's for sand blasting and paint.
     
  2. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    Out of interest AW, old Autocavan or sourced elsewhere?
     
  3. sparrow Paid Member Paid Member

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    I had a bit of a look at this when I was trying to decide on wheels.

    A couple of examples for 15" wheels:

    OZ Superleggera 15" 5.2kg
    Team Dynamics Pro Race 1 15" 6.0kg
    Team Dynamics Pro Race 2 15" 6.4kg
    Compomotive MO 15" 8.5kg

    So changing from Compomotive MOs to OZ Superleggeras will save 4 * 3.3 = 13.2kg (or 29lbs)! That's a lot of (unsprung) weight.

    For more info, look at www.wheelweights.net. Google didn't throw up anything like that for tires when I looked though.
     
  4. mr.brown

    mr.brown Paid Member Paid Member

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    Just weighed some Toyos in the garage - 195/45/15 T1R are 6.5kg.
     
  5. sparrow Paid Member Paid Member

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    205/50/15 R888s are 9kg. Wonder why they are so much heavier?
     
  6. IanCarvell Forum Member

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    I noticed how heavy the toyos were when I got some fitted a few months ago....I took off some Pirellis and fitted the Toyos and they were significantly heavier.

    They must be a very stiff carcas.
     
  7. POL

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    AW doors with my own rather uniqe hinges. [:$] probably one of the reasons the cars rather light. if i was doing them again i'd look to get them onto a door frame and gut the metal as much as possible.


    nice figures on wheel weights. will get my alleycats, slicks and mates wheels weighed up at weekend.
     
  8. Ray268

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    I put my MK1 on the scales at Brands on thursday.
    All steel panels, still has bumpers on, perspex windows, multi point cage, stripped int, Honda engine, full tank of fuel 885kg
    Also on the day Chris checked his MK1 also steel panelled, no bumpers, perspex windows, 6 point cage, stripped int, 16v on K jet, 1/3 of a tank of fuel 825kg
    I think i had about 30kg more fuel, bumpers 10kg my cage must be the rest as i went abit overboard when i put it in.
    Dry weight i think mine 845kg Chris 815kg
    Ray
     
  9. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    Spoke to Maurice Reeves and his newly built Mk1 was 853kg with a 95% full tank on the same day.
     
  10. jamesa Forum Junkie

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    Not easy making comparisons between cars / components is it !
     
  11. Ray268

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    It was Maurice that showed me where the scales were, big thanks for that.
    Ray
     
  12. steved Forum Member

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    Hmmmmm strange why a stripped MK2 is lighter than a MK1
     
  13. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    830 Steve.. that's light!

    We weighed quite a few Mk2s last year in the Mk2 race series and the 8-valves were generally around the 870-880 mark (minus driver), with full glass, brackets, tank etc.

    16s were in the 900kg region (usually weighed with driver, and lacking driver weight data!)

    Where were the gains?
     
  14. steved Forum Member

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    I've not gone over the top, 1.3 shell (no sunroof) Fibreglass bonnet and boot lid, The usual floor sealer removal and bumper steel removed etc etc, 830kgs was with the carb'd 16v so will now have to weigh it witht he 20v.
     
  15. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    Does seem light - have you had it on Brand's scales in the top garage, or elsewhere?
     
  16. steved Forum Member

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    I've got a set of corner weight scales, Hmmm i'm racing at Brands on the Bank Holiday in March so should re weigh it.
     
  17. IanCarvell Forum Member

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    I was basing my next Mk2 build at around 800kg....there is a lot of weight lost when converting to carbs, you can get rid of manifold upper and lower, airbox, metering head, WUR, injectors, airlow meter, accumulator, pump, lift pump, filter, throttle body etc etc and replace with two carbs, a pump and a regulator.

    Edit....that is 16v of cause
     
  18. jono395 Forum Member

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    Even though its not a track car, for a comparison,

    i stripped my Mk2 of seats, rear half of the carpet, 70% sound deadening (apart from front doors and some odd dynomat) Spare wheel, *kept front seats, dash, heater*

    about 7L of fuel

    weighed in at 918KG

    how much do mk2's usually weigh? as it suggests it weighs 1420 on my VIN plate... surely that isnt right!
     
  19. M7R

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    the vin wieght will prob be the gross vehicle wieght, not kerb that you are looking at.

    Come spring I will have my mk1 on the calibrated offical govenment scales at work, so I will report back on the wieghts. im looking for 800kg or so
     
  20. steved Forum Member

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    As in one of my last posts my MK2 16V was 835kgs with cage and the MK2 with a 20VT engine was 865kgs.
    The new MK3 should be lighter.
     

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