Oettinger 2ltr Kr 16v

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  1. Sirguydo

    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    So picked up my oettinger engine bits today :thumbup:
    I got :thumbup:
    Kr bored block 82.5 mm
    Pistons and rods ( not riffled like my race engine[:s])
    Oettinger knifed crank
    Two piece ali sump
    Bare 16v oettinger ported polished head
    Matched inlet and exhaust manifolds
    Normal cam case cover :cry: suppose there's no point of the fancy one when covered by inlet manifold :cry:
    Injectors etc etc

    So needs cams valves spings and caps

    Anyone know much about these engines specs etc ???

    Thanks :thumbup:
    Maybe some pics tomorrow

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    caps as in cam caps ?
     
  3. Sirguydo

    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    Doh I had a blank mean buckets :thumbup:

    But got loads of standard stuff curtesy of my Robt parts stash about thre heads worth lol
     
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    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    Oettinger piston and rod not rifled though should I look for some rifled ones instead ?
    imagejpg1_zps83efabd4.jpg

    What do I meassure ???

    How do I meassure crank throw ??
     
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  5. Sirguydo

    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    Crank pics
    imagejpg2_zps11cc3e54.jpg imagejpg3_zpsc83bda99.jpg

    Also has F511916 stamped on it
     
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  6. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    So it's certainly a normal cast / forged crank in design. Not a Holbay (just in case anything got lost in translation on purchase between GTI Engineering and Oettinger).

    It really needs the crank throw measuring, as those casting marks mean little straight off. I'll check my files.
     
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    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    It's a 97mm ish throw
     
  8. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    I'd expect 95.5mm, 94.5 mm or 92.8mm.

    On the off chance of it being a 1Z 95.5mm, are there three crank trigger disc attachment holes at the clutch end?
     
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    Rods look OEM? ..
     
  10. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

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    Yes, there's no reason for them to be H-section, these were just pre-9A (up to) 2-litre conversions really.
     
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    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    So a picture of the end of crank shows no crank trigger disc holes .
    imagejpg1_zps297b6139.jpg

    How do I accurately meassure crank throw ??


    Going to miss Chris's knowledge :( but not politics [8(]

    :hug:[l]love CGTI please help guys :thumbup:
     
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  12. notenoughtime

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    I would drop it in a block with bearings and rod/piston and measure from there
     
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    without putting it back in the block as suggested (best way imo) you need a flat sheet of something sturdy like an old worktop or sheet steel, and a right angle, and a pair of measuring calipers. draw a straight line on the surface, lay crank down, but the angle to the crank journal, make a mark. spin the crank directly over 180 degrees, do same again. this will give u distance between outer surfaces of big ends 180 degrees apart. divide distance in two from line measurement to give center of rotation. measure diameter of big end, half it, subtract from outer measurements at either end. difference = stroke. dead easy.
     
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    As said the easiest way is to drop it into the block but you could pop along to an engine reconditioners, I used to do some work at one place and they had an attachment on the crank grinder for checking the throw, they're never backwards at charging though
     
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    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    Cams ???

    Cylinder head is bear so need to build it up from my stash of parts [:D]

    Should I get my KR cams re profiled buy Tsr / piper ? 300? 320? 528? It's purely for track use so not worried about day to day lol
    JMR ?
     
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    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    Just found some more markings on my crank :thumbup: I meassured the throw as near as I could on my desk lol 95 mm
    Then found this written on the end of the crank lol
    25-94.5-47.8 A so I think that means it's a 94.5 mm throw crank :thumbup:
    Also the name on the first picture of the crank says Alring ???
    Any help appreciated :thumbup:
    imagejpg1_zps1bee1a82.jpg

    Also big ends have vag no 034701 help to identify please :thumbup:

    So from a later post I now know it's a Alfing crank :thumbup:

    Thanks :thumbup: Porth :thumbup:
     
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    That was simple enough! Lol
     
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    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    So been messing with Pistons this morning [:D]

    Oettinger rod 20 gudgen pin no riffling same length as KR

    KR rod 20 mm gudgen pin riffled

    Race engine riffled same length as KR but 21 mm gudgen pin ???
     
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    Sirguydo Fastest milkman in the West Paid Member

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    So now Chris is baned [8(]anyone else got any ideas ???:thumbup:
     
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    If your running k jet stick with around 270 degree cams, if carbs or itb's then yes sub 300 can be used...it will idle and drive like a dog on 300's and k jet.

    Crank journals look like they need a polish..a machine shop job...and get the stroke checked at the same time. It doesn't say Allen rather than Alring does it?

    Also...the rod in the pic looks like its had a bearing spin going by the marks and the polished edge...if so ditch them..and get the crank checked for straightness...more often than not a spun bearing will allow the rod to hammer the crank enough to bend it.
     
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