12v to 24v shopping list?

Discussion in 'VR5, VR6 & Wx' started by 1990, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. MUSHY 16V

    MUSHY 16V Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    the audi tt one is 022997033CX and the r32 one is 022906032CP

    and the AUE 4motion is 022997032AX

    this was al off ETKE will have to look at the one in my car for the part numbers

    there is more numbers than this

    chears to both off you
     
  2. 1990

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    J623 = Engine control unit. The other is the body control module which you do not need.
     
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    Cheers Toyotec!!

    So on my shopping list I now have:

    Mk4 R32 loom and ECU (Are any sections of the mk5 loom useful?)
    V5 Gearbox
    VR6 Clucth and flywheel
    VR6 Front and rear engine mounts
    VR6 Thermostat housing, corrado coolant hoses and radiator with mk2 fan wiring.
    R32 MAF (missing from engine i've got)
    VR6 oil cooler?
    FPR so I can use the mk5 fuel rail and injectors???
    Anything else

    Would I be better selling my engine/box/loom/ecu as a package or raping it of the bits I want and selling the leftovers as individual items?
     
  5. Toyotec

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    I would attempt to retain the MK4 R32 injectors and FPR if using a MK4 R32 ECU.
    Unless you have already confirmed that the injector flow rate is the same between the ME9controlled engine and the ME7.1.X system.
    V5 gearbox optional over what you have. ~240lbft will spin up wheels in low gears if multipied by 3.94 vs if multipled by 3.39. Plus 12v gearbox will have higher top speed.
     
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    you also need a vr6 oilcooler cap to give you enough clearence on the front engine mount


    when i done my mk2 vr6 to 2mo conversion i sold my engine in bits, but still made 300 and my block was cracked and i retained my gearbox
     
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    Is there a way to find out??
     
  9. MUSHY 16V

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    use the mk4 ones i re used my 4motion injectors
     
  10. 1990

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    OK then, plenty of parts to search for.

    I think i'll break my engine rather than sell it whole, there seems to be a few bits of it that i'll need to keep.

    Any point lightening/balancing the VR flywheel? Should I get an uprated clutch? Which one?
     
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    Yes. This will improve response. Clutch, what ever people use into cope with supercharged 12v applications would be fine.
     
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    just make sure vr6 flywheel works with the v5 gearbox i think it should but not sure
    i know you cant use the vr6 flywheel with the 4motion gearbox as i looked into using one with mine
    i think it may just be the 6speed boxs that dont take the vr6 flywheel
     
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  13. Toyotec

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    V5 gearbox is a 02A, 4Motion is 02M.
     
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    it will go strait on then
    at least that gets shot of the duel mass
     
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    I might stick with the VR6 gearbox at first.

    Cant wait for the engine to arrive now!!
     
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    with the r32 if you used say emerald would that let you still use the mk2 clocks and rev counter , i know Storm do a cable Throttle body ?


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    Mine already has mk3 clocks but I think I coul use mk2 clocks with the VW ecu if I get the immobiliser removed.
     
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    you need a converter to use mk2 clocks with any 6 pot signal, there are too many rev pulses to it will read wrong (6 pot vs 4 pot) the mk3/4 ecu rev signal isnt compatible with mk2 clocks either, so you're looking at 2 conversions. make the signal mk2 compatible, then you need to reduce the number of rev pulses so the 4 pot rev counter reads correctly.

    you can make your own converter on some depending on which spark system it uses though. the later vr6 coil can be opened up and some wires and resistors added, this gets you a mk2 compatible signal. early coil vr6 you cant do this and a converter is required, not sure on the later engines.
     
  19. Toyotec

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    Storm have a box to convert to allow the motorised throttle to be run electronically and direct from the E-pedal. Kind of a fix when the original ECU is not used and you do not change to a cable throttle.
    The original ECU can be used however without any need to run a standalone. The ECU sends to signal to the clocks, although in later ones it may be over CAN.
     
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    As you hinted 24v BDE ME7.1.1 engines run a similar coil pack to AAA/ABV/AES 12v M2.9.1 and 3.8.1 engines. I have a link somewhere that shows how to use the VR6 12v coil trigger pulses to enable the use of regular MK2 rev counter. However R32 engines do not run wasted spark but COP and this method on the above wasted systems may need a bit of working around if it is to work. Can be done, just needs time to work out.
     

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